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Maybe this is better left as a comment SO, but we have been unable to any recent version of Android Studio for our development team for the past four months because we use a mapFragment in our app. It's a known error [0] in the Maps API v2. I understand the complexity Google is facing, but I can't imagine Apple not addressing such a fundamental UI capability in their dev tools. Frustrating.

[0] https://code.google.com/p/gmaps-api-issues/issues/detail?id=...

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For several months XCode would just crash when I tried to run my application with debugging. It was eventually fixed by an XCode update.

I think the only large platform owning company that has really succeeded with development tools is Microsoft. With Microsoft's newfound interest in cross platform development I'm looking forward to the day when I can just develop entirely in Visual Studio.

> With Microsoft's newfound interest in cross platform development I'm looking forward to the day when I can just develop entirely in Visual Studio.

Agreed, VS is the best IDE out there by far. Still a shame that developing in VS implies developing on Windows.

Some of us are developers and do actually like Windows, but I agree it would nice for it to be cross-platform.

It would be handy on my travel netbook, which is the only GNU/Linux device at home.

How is it better than any of JetBrain's products?

Fairly limited without ReSharper, which makes it slow; language support is not particularly great; updates have made me lose half a day's producitvity (although that's par for the course for Windows); weird keybinds...

And of course: Windows-only, not open source and not free as in free beer either if you don't meet certain criteria.

Worked as a .net dev for ~3 years, and I loved VS, but it had its share of random problems too. I remember it flipping out and suddenly consuming a shitload of CPU and RAM for no apparent reason, even working on fairly small projects. It was nearly impossible to work with it until I switched to a more powerful PC.

Is it really fair to say xCode is not a successful tool? A lot of people use it, and I don't hear enough complains about it.

And what is the most common tool for Android development? I assumed it'd be Android Studio by now, is everyone still on Eclipse?

Those of us that also use the NDK are mostly using Visual Studio, NVidia CodeWorks or trying to keep using Eclipse CDT tooling (there is a fork of it).

Google deprecated the Eclipse CDT and ndk-build support, went silent for two years, announced an initial CLion integration at last Google IO and since Android Studio 1.5, its support or NDK support for that matter, hardly changed.

some people are still using Eclipse...

however it is so baffling that in several conferences I have seen Googlers ask such persons to come forward and explain to them why they don't want to switch.

I agree. Having worked with VS, in the past 10 years I think my worst issues (as in bugs) have been corrupt Intellisense databases with resulting errors and rare flipping out in the UI designer, resolved by restarting. The Intellisense issues were worked on with a major rewrite of that engine that I think is implemented these days.

Have you ever used an Apple dev tool? If so, I'm shocked at how dramatically different your experience has been from mine. I would rank Apple absolute dead last in terms of caring about the usability of their dev tools out of any vendor of dev tools I have experience with.

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