Teen birth rate hits all-time low, led by 50% decline among Hispanics and blacks
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That's interesting, but lets just take a long look at the FIRST cause, which has come at the cost of endless political fights and only exists through that constant fighting. There are still a LOT of people who think that access to birth control is the problem.
But society's pov, politicians or simply all teens haven't catched up yet
By making things more accessible and banal, you remove the urge to do it just to spite authority.
That simple argument justifies that teens who can sample alcohol at home are less likely to binge drink, and that kids who have ample access to sex ed and contraception are less likely to go and have sex both logistically and emotionally unprepared
That's patently false. Cf. http://www.jsad.com/doi/abs/10.15288/jsad.2015.76.212
So far I find the argument far from convincing.
Where did this idea come from?
And teens being too busy texting and not comfortable enough actually engaging with others are having less sex... Or religion... or being busy feeling #TheBern... or stopped having sex after feeling #TheBurn... Or are too fat... Or...
Keeping the feminism/SJW/manosphere shenanigans in my peripheral vision, there's been a huge backlash rallying against single mothers in recent years. There's even some anecdotal evidence in dating sites/posts that single mothers are increasingly more open of their demanding that men "man up" and accept another's child/children as part of the package.
Shaming single mothers for being on state assistance or child support only seemed to increase feminist resolve, but a tangible impact in reduced desirability in the larger dating pool may be pushing women to be more responsible.
If you're going to seriously date a single mother, what other option do you have?
I'm not suggesting that you meet the kids on the second date, but if you're seriously romantically involved with someone for six months, you're not going to be able to continue that relationship with the single parent without having some involvement with the kids, too.
It seems crazier to me to have the option of opting out of the kids in this scenario. Do you just live separately until they turn 18?
Additionally, most people, but especially teens, don't think about some future "dating pool" when they decide to have sex. They usually just believe two of the oldest lies out there: "we're not gonna get pregnant" and "he's gonna still be around in 9 months".
So basically: your opinion is invalid, and it's also slightly insulting since it seems to put everything on the women in the relationship and blames "single mothers" for choosing the wrong gender, I guess, since they wouldn't be in the same situation by your logic if they did the exact same thing but were male.
I mean, if you're going to be unbound by facts or reality, why be boring?
To be more persuasive.
But it is unfair to blame only that group for "magical thinking"
To avoid dealing with bullshit from parents, the school hires an outside company to teach sex ed. Sometimes they failed in funny ways. In my daughter's class, they handed out a few Skittles and told kids to pass them around as the class went on. After a while they stopped to talk about the candy that had been handled by everybody and asked who would want to eat the now sticky, gross candy. They underestimated how picky kids are when it comes to Skittles - all were eaten.
Reminds me of this time at my Baptist (yes, the upper case C christian kind) university where someone did the same thing by biting a cookie. I ate the half-bitten cookie just out of spite. People are not cookies!
But I am also confused how there are/were actually sexually active teenagers who think things like "Ziploc bags are as effective as condoms". Maybe the trickle down effect of decent Sex Ed was responsible for dispelling these kinds of beliefs before we were at the sexually active age. I certainly didn't know anyone who thought (or at least expressed) an opinion this ignorant in high school. If nothing else, having sex through a Ziploc bag sounds miserably uncomfortable.
But then, I did know a guy in college who apparently thought the condom was supposed to be stretched over the scrotum, so this ignorance is out there (or at least was).
I had many stupid friends in high school :). But the schools were not highly rated as well. I do remember many new mothers in my 11th and 12th grade years and also a few who were pregnant during the graduation ceremony. So I don't think they did a good job but I don't know how much school education helps compared to at home education in regards to sex ed.
Oops.
It's like they went out of their way to spread misinformation.
I'm not as on top of modern psychology as I'd like to be, so I'd love to see a formal study on the subject, but I'm pretty confident that most people's decisions are guided by the belief (subconscious or otherwise) that the end justifies the means.
Of course there are also some really stupid people out there. One of my earliest memories is of debating my elementary science teacher, who insisted that NASA had a room with perfect vacuum for gravity free training (her position being that air pressure and gravity were the same thing).
> It's like they went out of their way to spread misinformation.
Imagine that.
Well, there was that one case...
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2010/02/01/ncbi-...
So did I, and so am I. Ours consisted mainly in a full-color slideshow of various genitals horribly mutilated by unchecked venereal disease, with absolutely nothing held back. Granted, as teenagers, most of us found it as fascinating as we did appalling, and I can attest to the fact that it did little to discourage our burgeoning interest in sexual activity. But it wasn't what you would call useful.
That's the big reason that, if it is mentioned at all in an educational context, it's to tell people not to do it, and play up the dangers. Scare the kids (who are at higher risk of the method failing) into no using it. Obviously, there are much better methods of birth control, but the withdrawal method gets a lot more flak than it deserves, IMO
On top of that, the stigma around using the pill decreases all the time. Parents are willing to get the pill for their daughters.
There is more access for contraception for women. Sadly no real changes for men. Although now you buy condoms online which reduces the stigma many young people have about buying them in person.
From the email:
> A key goal for the first Vasalgel studies, in addition to demonstrating the contraceptive's safety and effectiveness, was to establish its reversibility. Vasalgel was reversible after a year in rabbits, but as we've reported, reversibility has so far been elusive in large-animal studies.
> We suspect we simply haven't found a suitable large-animal model; for example the baboon vas deferens is smaller and more fragile than that of the human. We're cautiously optimistic that everything will be much easier in human trials, because the human vas is larger and sturdier. And we're hard at work trying some other things too. But in the meantime, the first clinical trial will be designed to include just men who aren't counting on reversibility, while we sort out those issues.
> Thousands of people would like to be in the first trial, but there are only a few spots. And the researcher will have to pick local men who are the best candidates and want vasectomy anyway. So we're trying to keep everybody's focus on the ultimate prize: getting Vasalgel to market, with availability to ALL. If trials go well, then the sky's the limit: we'll seek approvals to bring Vasalgel to market, starting in the U.S., E.U., and Canada... and expanding from there.
Mail order condoms was common long before the web was popularized.
I didn't get my first checking account (and bank card, which only worked in ATMs) until I attained legal majority and started my first adult job, but that was quite a few years ago now. I would be entirely unsurprised to learn that many, many teenagers today have bank accounts and debit cards of their own, even if it's only their allowance that gets deposited there.
You would be surprised how many 5 year children make one-click purchases on their parents account. Suddenly all their favorite toys begin to appear magically at the door.
Better than a box from "Condoms R Us", or a generic box, which will still require explaination. An amazon box requires no extra explaination
http://www.nhs.uk/Service-Search/Free%20condoms/LocationSear...
Teens could get a range of contraception, for free, often without their parent's knowledge.
The rules about whether a child has capacity to make their own decisions around medical procedures - Gillick Competency - is named after Victoria Gillick, who didn't children to be prescribe contraceptive pill without the parent's knowledge.
"street pharmacist"
Without wanting to be too crude, he told me that partly the reduction in teen pregnancy is down to the prevalence of porn and how it ends in a facial rather than a vaginal ejaculation.
Especially about their sex lives.
Also games and social networks - they drive teens crazy and tempt them to lock themselves in their homes for much of their free time. When you stay at home, you get less sex.
On the whole, teens are replacing sex with more computer time.
It's astounding how before the wide availability of information, people believed in "folk" contraception.
That, and poverty and bad education are big risk factors for teen pregnancy, and being born to poor, poorly educated people isn't likely to lead to you riches and a fine education.
Why would anyone be skeptical of contraception? Perhaps because the normalization of contraception has come at the same time as a dramatic increase in single motherhood, from single digits in 1950 to about half of all children today [0]. If we are tempted to think that single motherhood is a problem of access to technology, it is sobering to think that we are worse at it than medieval peasants.
At the same time, total fertility has fallen to sub-replacement rates in every Western country [1]. This creates top-heavy societies that are dependent for young workers upon cultures that don't share our enlightened attitudes.
Is it certain that both of these trends can be attributed wholly to contraception? No. Do they suggest that Western cultures have adopted attitudes towards sex and reproduction that are proving incompatible with their own continued existence? Well...
[0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/12/18/the-u...
You're writing as though this were self-evidently absurd.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2012/02/unleaded-gasol...
https://www.epa.gov/sites/production/files/2015-10/documents...
IIRC the working draft of that report had a more detailed chart, but I don't see it in the final version for whatever reason.
"widespread availability of broadband Internet"
LOL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Responsibility_and_Wo...
If you use contraception, you won't have pregnancy. So why are the rates down? Health? Then why are 25% of kids obese (I looked up those figures).
I can only assume that technology has created more social isolation.
This. If you think that technology has done a good job of informing teens about the risks of pregnancy and the importance of contraception, you are probably being far too optimistic in the face of a dire situation (i.e. mass estrangement).
I don't know - could there be some observation bias given the forum we're discussing this in? It also undermines digital relationships which have their own positives aspects. Here we are having a civil conversation about an important topic without having to commit to meeting at a certain time or place or without knowing what shared interests we have.
The internet can act as a social lubricant of sorts which is valuable. The legacy social lubricant is alcohol.
That is a very interesting point, though I suspect we'll never actually be able to retire that legacy. If we do, I think it'll take at least a century.
Edit: honestly I think the social lubricant is actually pseudonymity, empowered by the network.
Conversely, intoxication is its own kind of real-life pseudonymity! :-)
Whether or not this is true depends upon the ability of the Arab Spring and Occupy Wall Street to exact change. Things are not looking empirically good for "internet society."
Although I think it's safe to allow for the possibility of an immanent "death of Facebook" which could give rise to the social lubricant you're describing, since I don't think Facebook served the Arab Spring very well.
You're saying technology didn't spread the idea of having less sex; I don't even think the commenter you're responding to claimed as much, merely that for all the chatter about sex and violence on TV and video games and other media, teens are still doing a good job at not making stupid choices. Which is contrary to what many people believe today.
I don't think technology has very much to do with it, more the idea that if you're born into a household with five other starving kids, you're less likely to repeat what your parents did.
And, absolutely not. Tinder is legitimately causing hookups that probably wouldn't have otherwise happened so easily, just as an easy example.
Maybe they were taking the line "still make rational decisions regarding their bodies" out of context. (Overeating is no more rational than risking unwanted pregnancy.) I'm neither agreeing nor defending, just looking for a connection.
I can only speak anecdotally but from observations it has increased social interaction for those who seek it - as social networking makes the process easier - while reduced it for those who don't seek it or want to take the path of least resistance. Technology merely accelerates individual desire. SJ's old chestnut: computers are like bicycles for the mind - well you could say the internet like is a bicycle for desire.
We know that as the standards of living (reduced mortality, longer lifespans, education etc) improve, the number of children produced decreases. That's one considerable factor.
With regards to Hispanics and Blacks in particular, as someone who grew up in a relatively poor household I quickly grasped how much my parents resented what having children did to their social mobility. They couldn't afford childcare, so only one parent could work. Despite having only a single income until we were teens, they could still afford a good-sized home relatively close to the city. Try doing that on two middle-of-the-road incomes today - not impossible but not easy, and very difficult with kids. The reality is that children have an anchor effect on the lower-middle to lower classes, while barely any affect on the upper middle to upper classes. Teens from poor households are probably well aware of the struggle ahead if they wish to have children.
The reason some choose to enjoy food more than others have in the past might be just because they enjoy food and are willing to give up their health for the enjoyment of eating. I'd rather be obese than a teenage parent.
Well, bluntly, it IS putting distance between the participants genitals.
"The secret sauce of influence is the telenovela's subtle promotion of extravagant materialism by means of a smaller family as opposed to the relative poverty of large families. It's also had the effect of promoting urban lifestyles."
I don't know how directly relevant this is to teenage pregnancy, but there does seem to be evidence for media consumption affecting reproductive outcomes.
[1] http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/06/how...
OK, so the interesting question is whether the birth rate for this cohort will increase as they get older. Hypothesis: Sex has become unworkable for many young people, and they will just opt out of reproduction. In recent decades, birth rates have dropped in many Western European countries, Russia, Japan, etc. The reasons have been diverse. Too many other options. Social disruption. Whatever. But time will tell ...
Could rising childhood obesity be contributing to this as well?
Both are unpopular hypotheses, however, because all bodies are beautiful and sex positive porn has zero externalities.
Not to mention easier to purchase/discreet shipping of sex products/toys.
Who claims porn has zero externalities?
Conservatives claim it somehow has negative externalities while I'll happily claim it has positive externalities (happiness, less rape, less pregnancy, etc.).
Interesting because I've never heard this hypothesis before and other online discussion of this article does not mention obesity.
If I'm a 4 and I won't settle for less than an 7 (which is a step down from what porn is teaching me about averages), it's likely I'm not going to father many children.
Is this based on your personal observation or are you referencing some known well established statistical fact.
The article mentions that is is mostly believed to be a combination of investment in effective and health programs.
You don't think that's true?
Note: I said people who _feel_ fat, not people who _are_ fat.
You sound pretty sure of yourself.
Why is that?
It's more likely that popular representations of teen pregnancy in the media gradually taught enough kids that having a baby in their teens will seriously screw up their life. You only need to see one episode of Teen Mom to know that's nowhere you want to be.
Also, this wording can seem confusing (i.e. you can't give birth to a teen!).
That's true, but if your argument is the lower number of births is due to widespread availability of contraception, you have to address pregnancy and not just births.
A friend of mine grew up in one such fundamentalist community in rural Iowa; she married at 20, but some of her peers were already moms by that age. I wonder whether they include this type of parent in the statistics, or are they only talking about unwed mothers here?
There seem to be a lot of rural counties in the first quintile of teenage pregnancy, and I venture to guess that some of them, the ones not in large cities or general urban areas, are traditional or fundamentalist communities where teenage girls often marry.
Unfortunately, our socio-economic system (outside these specialized communities) is just not set up to accommodate pregnancy at the age when we are most fertile. It's too bad, given how many of us are delaying having children until our 30s, even 40s, and running into all sorts of issues for both the mom and the child; I have personal experience in this.
Anyway, this looks like a good trend, that kids are either finally "getting it" or else they're simply too distracted by technological toys to be fooling around like they used to!
I'm not so sure: I feel like I wouldn't have been mature enough to raise children correctly in my twenties.. IMHO the ideal age for raising children is your 30s: not only you're mature and young enough but if your parents had you in their 30s, they can also help raising the children especially if they just retired: win-win.
I think we've lost something, a certain quality of life, as a result of the dispersal of families. 100 years ago, it was common in both rural and urban America for extended families to be under the same roof or at least nearby.
Now, kids move away, sometimes very far away, wait until their 30s to have kids, when the grandparents are getting too old and tired to help (except maybe financially) and the kids miss out on the rich multigenerational experience that was how people transmitted their wisdom, experience, and traditions.
It's kind of like that (public) high school in the Midessa region of West Texas, the one that had an abstinence only sex-ed policy and a chlamydia outbreak. Or Mike Pence shutting down Planned Parenthood clinics in rural Indiana which led to an HIV outbreak (and Pence having to sign a needle exchange bill to limit the spread of HIV).
Whodathunk? ;)
I knew so many kids that had parents that would treat them like adults..and they still made all of the stupid mistakes as the rest of us.
It's most likely a culture change. So many teenagers are becoming non-social and filling their time with the phone rather than sex.
The fall in this statistic looks quite similar to the fall in crime. Both are reckless shortsighted behavior, and I'd bet there is a common cause.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27067615
The abortion hypothesis was also correlation study (i.e. These graphs look similar) but didn't control for leaded gasoline. Also later studies failed to find more direct links such as higher rates of abortion in high crime areas that would explain the magnitude of the drop.
A later study by the author of the paper suggesting lead as the driver of violent crime did a follow up study that incorporated lead, abortion and other variables found that lead was the dominant contributor and abortion a secondary contributor.
If you haven't read it, the Mother Jones article is the place to start: http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/02/lead-exposure...
That article has some critics that you can look up if you're ambitious.
Anecdotally, I knew a few women in high school who got pregnant, and it seemed to add a great deal of excitement and hope for their future, rather than the other way around. If you have nothing going for you, having a kid can seem like a good plan.
If you start giving people other options, other things to work for, and exposing them to other cultures, they might find better alternatives. Heck, this whole thing might still be caused by the Internet! But not for the reasons some other people said...
Right; once Facebook figures out how you can make babies while you're all alone, staring at your mobile device, that rate might be reversed.
Anal sex has got to be the best form of contraception, although it definitely isn't "safe".