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Proxmox VE 4.2 released

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For anyone looking to build a clustered virtualization solution, I recommend checking out Googles Ganeti: http://www.ganeti.org

It doesn't look like much, but is rock solid and supports everything Proxmox does and more, save for the lack of a built-in web UI (but there are several 3rd party ones, as Ganeti is 100% API driven).

No affiliation, but have successfully deployed it at multiple sites (and would love to do so again, wink wink).

What web gui do you like for it?

IMHO that's the strongest feature proxmox has is ease of use through a gui.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Ganeti only does Xen VMs while ProxMox also does LXC containers. Nice to have both via one central UI.

Good to know!

Ganeti can use either Xen, KVM and LXC hypervisors -- I've actually only used the KVM backend.

I've used Ganeti Web Manager[0] in the past, but would probably try out Ganetimgr[1] for future installs. The command-line tools are very good however, and I don't think the web interfaces expose the full functionality (i.e. rebalancing, node evacuation, master-failover, etc).

0: https://github.com/osuosl/ganeti_webmgr

1: https://github.com/grnet/ganetimgr

I set up a small Proxmox cluster, but this statement on their website seems to be misleading: "Proxmox VE is a complete open source server virtualization management software." On our test cluster, it continously prompts for a license.

The prompt is nagware. The code is opensource. If you want, you can go and modify the file that issues that prompt—lots of other people have. Google for it, and you should find the solution.

Proxmox vs Ganeti vs oVirt vs OpenStack vs ...

Is anyone aware of a good comparison of the solutions in this space?

Honestly, its just a pick one and power through. I just look at the company backing it, the stars on Github, throw in a prayer, etc.

I haven't used Proxmox or oVirt (but know roughly their strengths), but can tell you right away that Openstack almost certainly is not what you want. Unless you expect CERN or Rackspace-level traffic, and are prepared to fork it and throw a dozen engineers at it.

The Openstack documentation is terrible, the user interface is awkward and clunky, and the configuration files for each component are several-thousand lines of Python code. Unsurprisingly it has more bugs than New Zealand, and regularly breaks in inexplicable ways. Additionally it does not support crucial features such as node evacuation or rebalancing, and you can't even use the built-in scheduler to pick a new host when live migrating.. And good luck upgrading from one version to the next.

If you're a small shop, oVirt or Proxmox are both solid options. Ganeti fits here too, but has a much higher barrier to entry (no web UI or guest OS support by default).

Source: used Ganeti for 6 years at three different sites, and recently resigned from my current job after one year of fighting Openstack because I could not convince my colleagues to pick a better platform.

The UI is much improved and more modern looking in the new version. Try it out. It's pretty great software!

I love Proxmox but I wish it looked a little bit more like oVirt's UI.

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