An average half-kilometer S-type asteroid is worth more than $20 trillion.
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The ore in an asteroid, REFINED, is worth that much.
It's a fair bit of work to move that ore from pt A to pt B, crush it, smelt it, refine it, anneal it, etc.
A cubic kilometer of sea water is worth a similarly preposterous amount ... and yet, noone has become a trillionaire by refining sea water. It costs more to do it than the minerals are worth.
Will it happen some day? Sure. Is it relevant today? No.
What could we build if titanium was free (or very close)? What would our houses and cars look like if there was a limitless supply of aluminum?
A vital step to us getting off this planet in a meaningful way is sending robots out to gather resources, both to build the ships we'll need outside of our gravity well and to return some of that abundance to the surface so we can alleviate our scarcities here.
There IS a limitless supply of aluminum. The top kilometer of crust all over the earth is stunningly rich in aluminum. It's just that PROCESSING it takes energy.
...just like processing an asteroid.
Dirt, though, has the added advantage of already being HERE.
As I recall, the allure with metals in asteroids that they are "hunks of cut up planets". Instead of digging and processing, you just scrape the good stuff off the surface and (being in deep space and all) its not oxidized or otherwise contaminated like it is when found on earth. You build your kickass starship out of it right then and there or encapsulate it in some heat shielding and drop it in the nearest ocean for retrieval.
A great many people who bought a bunch of gold as a hedge against inflation might be disappointed though...
It would still take some processing to separate the compounds, but nowhere near as much as ores.
Which is exactly why we need fusion power and not the hydro, wind and solar power the shortsighted environmentalists keep pushing. Those will never produce the vast additional amounts of energy needed to make the next step in our general wellbeing. With cheap limitless energy, you can produce all the water you want, bind all the CO2 you want, produce all the O3 you want, recycle everything you want and even use fission to produce whatever materials you want.
Seriously, do the math, for the applications we're talking about (asteroid mining), given that the solar constant at earths orbit is roughly 1400 Watts/m^2 a relatively modest set of mirrors could be used to heat metal up to working temperature.
Because fusion scales well. With time, everything limited by technology becomes cheap as technology advances. There are no fundamental problems or limits in fusion, just practical problems. Fusion has never received the amount of funding it should have received. How long did it take ITER to get the measly 10 billion dollars required?
As for fission: the all important difference is that the fuel for fusion is much easier to get, is unlimited and the garbage that gets left behind isn't nearly as much of a problem. Moreover, there is no risk of blowing up half the nearby city and irradiating the area for the next 100K years. Fusion and fission are incomparable as for their ability to provide energy.
But yeah, to consume that much materials would take entire worlds, colonized.
Unless other HN readers are in the same city :)
This is very untrue.
Yes, I agree with many of the predictions of the article. Like how private industry will take over the space exploration. But the opinion of the author and I is about as valuable as a crystal ball.
If we are going to play the speculation game, here is what interests me about the subject.
1) Who would get the mining rights in space? Or would it be a 'gold rush?' If so, would it be like international waters with no laws? Could I achieve my childhood dream of being a space pirate? ;)
2) Most of the asteroids of our solar system take months to reach reach with our fastest ships. If you want a human presence we are talking YEARS. Humans on prolonged space flights are very, very tricky to take care of. That makes a strong case for only sending robots, and that would require some very wicked AI, since the transmission times for controls would be too great.
Think about all the hazards and procedures the robot(s) would have to perform. Guidance, acquisition, positioning, detection of surroundings, plotting return course, AVOIDANCE, ext. And the hardware implications, the fuel, the power, capturing, ext.
It would make a Mars rover look like an RC car. And the two mars rovers cost us approx. 820 million dollars.
The cost of development may be justified by a 20 trillion dollar prize, but the cost to buy in is very high. If a corporation did want to fund it with billions of dollars without knowing if they were going to see a return, and willing to wait years for it. Then you have a winner, I don't see anyone jumping at the bit to take that risk though.
3) While asteroid mining seems like a great idea. Why are aren't we being more creative about the other things we can do in space? Where is the startup mentality?
How about technicians that repair satellites in orbit? Great place to hone the programing for the asteroid gatherers.
For the moment being, that sounds specious at best. We (the US) are not able to get back to the moon because of a lack of funds (NASA accounted for some 5% of the entire federal budget in 1966, now it's down to .5%); any amount of funding by private entities for such tasks is minuscule in comparison, and therefore obviously insufficient.
But I suppose that'll change in interesting ways with time.
Of course the Patent and Trademark office is law supported too.
(And, naively, aren't there many private businesses that couldn't make a profit without laws supporting them?)
In a sense, no, by definition.
Would those factors actually make them "not really profitable" or "not actually private businesses"? Or is this where the "In a sense" part of your reply breaks down? (These are legitimate questions, but I'm afraid it might sound snarky.)
Of course, by that standard, I'm not sure how many "truly private" companies exist, since it seems to rule out (among others) any company that relies on intellectual property law, including trademark enforcement to prevent bootlegs and cheap imitations.
Of course, that $31.7 billion is mostly interest on treasuries, so…
And there is another more grievous oversight in the article which pertains to the sinister slight-of-hand on the administration's policy: they intend to slough off the cost of developing and deploying what portends to be mankind's greatest engineering feat, while planning to reap the profits: do you really think for one second that good old Uncle Sam will not find away to skim away a hefty share of these (potential) profits? do you think that such asteroids will be corporate or "social" property (read government)?
Tying together one last point, does anyone really believe that this administration has a new found faith in the free markets - or is all of this pandering and innuendo just a red hearing to keep us from sobering up to the cold fact that the promising Constellation project was just killed?
Our world is a small watery dot floating in the dark. We don't have a backup.