Bye – Why I'm leaving Medium
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I've seen this attitude in so many different situations IRL and online. It's so refreshing to read it so clearly and fearlessly stated like that.
It's unfortunate that Medium have attracted all the seagulls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-3e0EkvIEM), because they've done so much awesome technical work on the platform, for example with editing (https://medium.com/medium-eng/why-contenteditable-is-terribl...).
How can platforms like Medium cultivate a culture that deprioritizes and devalues the types of spam content the article author is referring to?
EDIT: Accidentally pasted the quote twice, fixed (thanks yxlx)
There's a lot of really well run subreddits like /r/AskScience and /r/AskHistorians where the people who get the final say are usually the ones who have the best credentials.
For websites like medium, it's less about the credentials but more about how flashy your title can be. Just look at the top articles - it's usually titled something along the lines of "You're all missing the point of X" or "Elon Musk is Dangerous" or "How the Tech World Trashes Women". And these articles tend to be written by social justice warriors or "motivational speakers" who have never actually done anything but coach.
You're right - in the large majority of situations, the person voted to the top often has the most qualifications. That's an example of a social model (upvoting/downvoting affecting visibility) that's a design win.
What I'm wonder about is how to explore building a publishing/content platform with a data/interaction model that promotes the highest quality and authoritative content in a similar sort of way. Medium's automatic recommendation system is too easy to play the SEO game with.
The title examples you give are spot on; I usually avoid everything on Medium that wasn't painstakingly discovered by a human and saved for later reference here or on some other site like Reddit.
(Your reference of people who do nothing but coach reminds me of how I see politicians: they're like the people in young children's books who have a fixed position ("policeman", "man walking down street with dog", "grocer", "bus driver", etc) and don't have a life outside that position.)
What rules are there on Medium? It's the wild west, really- then again I don't really know, I don't browse Medium. Sometimes really smart people will use Medium as an essay writing tool, and when I see it through my social network I read it.
Curation through social network filters may not be the best, but all the articles I've read from Medium have been of a quality and topic I find interesting.
I've not thought this through in depth - feel free to pick holes in it, but I firmly believe that the mess we're suffering on the self-published areas of the internet are because it's free-to-post. So to maintain a level of quality there needs to be some sort of barrier to entry.
The supposed problem on Medium isn't automated spam, it's marketing.
The most effective way would be some sort of peer reviewed limitation, but that is difficult to implement and would likely reduce medium's viewership (management says oh the horror of sensationalist articles in one direction and yes! Page views! in the other).
There will be a transition to another blogging platform that sets up the right barrier to entry / moderation. Personally I don't think it is monetary.
The problem isn't that people are posting low quality, low effort content on medium. That's a problem that micropayments would solve. The problem is that it has become popular on medium to post certain types of content that other medium users find distasteful.
There's not much a site like medium can do to resolve a conflict of values in its userbase without restructuring the experience to enable the community to fragment, probably at the expense of some nice thing or another.
Fixed, thanks!
* 'Whatever you do, just start.'
* 'How to build the self confidence you need.'
* 'Even a genius has to sell himself… the remarkable resume of Leonardo da Vinci'
Written in turn by a founder, a marketer, and the author of 'Massive Life Success.'
The recommendation algo seems to be serving a heavy dose of irony today.
The OP is right- Medium is drowning in trash, and kudos to him for saying it.
Edit: It's quite possible that Medium is going for the 'mullet' strategy of HuffPo. If you go to the front page of medium.com - it's okay, it's not exactly super high quality, but it's not the kind of crap that gets punted around on email and social. Maybe that's what they're going for? If so, shame.
There's nothing on Medium itself that inhibit the display of the art he wants to share. Medium as an platform, it's enough for his needs. But it is the brand and the marketing aspect of it that he does not like. He is not that different from those "business types". He doesn't see just a platform for sharing content, he sees a brand, and this brand is bringing a negative value to his own brand as an artist.
Besides, this world view of "business types" and "artists" is simplistic and childish, is a persuasive argument to convince us of the legitimacy of his artwork. It is Another marketing strategy: I am the real artist, my artwork is of original legitimacy, different from this capitalist world we live in.
He is obnoxious, loud, and his reasons are contradictory.
Even though he has a point: There's too much self-help on Medium.
Congratulations. You possess exactly the lack of irony necessary to have just proved his point for him.
What if I told you there are more ways of looking at the world than market-capitalist terms? That some people value things on whole different axes than what will and will not make them more money?
He also said in the article: "Medium has become overloaded with loud, obnoxious idiots and I am no longer comfortable telling people, ‘Yeah I post on Medium, check me out.’"
To me, this sounds like he is concerned about his personal brand / reputation, which he aggregates with the content of Medium as a whole. As such, I think that lucasnemeth's points are reasonable.
Some people just want to create and show it to the world, they are not obsessed in getting millionary over it. But that goes against the "entrepreneurial" culture installed over the last decade where everyone thinks it's a nice thing to actually pass all your time promoting yourself like you are some kind of brand.
From what I got from the article, that's exactly what the author of the article is against.
But to a capitalist market a mother's love of her child is of huge value. Because that child is immediately a part of that market due to the money the mother spends to raise the child. Then the child eventually grows up to enter the market as a consumer to spend money on herself or maybe enter as a producer. Eventually she may have a child of her own to repeat the cycle. Without children a capitalist market eventually dies and a mother's love is one way to help its survival.
Rather read a real book about people who have actually done great feats. Elon Musk's biography, and Pixar's Creativity Inc have had much better advice than the fluffy articles I see on medium.
Props to this guy for having the balls to speak honestly about Medium.
- Wherever possible, get extremely rich early on by having the good fortune to be bought out by Paypal.
- If the opportunity arises to be brought in as a charismatic figurehead for an existing electric car company, take it.
- Be sure to absorb as much government largesse as possible in the form of subsidies and federal contracts, while portraying yourself as a champion for private-sector innovation.
I get why they did it that way but I walked away not really learning anything I didn't already know.
I post to medium, but I treat it as essentially a more modern Blogger. Do you skip any content you see posted to blogger.com or wordpress.com sites too? When I post there, I don't care about what other people are posting there, no more than I would avoid creating a website because many websites are shit.
As a blogging platform, Medium is OK. It's not brilliant. It's just OK. The editor is nice but too limited. The clean formatting is attractive but often I want more flexibility. The stats are useful but oddly, they refuse to show you more than 30 days worth at a time. Etc.
I have sometimes thought about going fully self hosted, but running my own blog is something I did years ago and I can't be bothered with that any more. Virtually all blogging software appears to be written in PHP by people who can't write secure code to save their lives ... WordPress is just a rolling disaster zone of exploits, I don't want viral articles to give me a big bandwidth bill, I don't want to have to set up my own analytics, etc.
Perhaps at some point I'll get over my inertia and move off of Medium, but it'd be unfortunate if I end up being motivated by "lol medium users are all idiots" becoming a meme rather than technical tradeoffs.
I'm afraid I actually find the clean formatting a little oppressive, although at least it's a consistently usable interface on mobile which is something you can't depend on in random blogs. The value-add features like read time and suggested articles don't add to the experience at all. In terms of the stats etc, I don't mind total views and uniques, which you could get from GA. Beyond that I think stats are part of the problem - I want to read things that people felt moved to write, not something that hits some kind of ROI metric.
There will be others who are getting their medium experience curated through reddit, tumblr, facebook, other forums etc.
And HN doesn't tend to go in for "outrage linking", elsewhere people will link to blogs for the sake of "look how awful this opinion is" which may also affect their perception of the platform.
Medium is an open blogging platform, it seems unfair to blame an open platform for the authors on it, but part of the problem here is that medium used to be invite only, so perhaps people are still judging it based on the authors on there, this article's author for one.
When I first heard of Medium, it seemed to have some well written articles. Then it turned into exactly what he's complaining about. Anyone can throw anything up there and wind up linked to on reddit, as if it was handed down from a mountain top.
I don't trust most articles there anymore.
It's not like many people actually browse medium.com, we all just get linked there from HN and reddit, which could happen on any platform. Any crap is really the fault of a the community linking to it.
And in my honest opinion, I haven't really seen that many genuinely awful posts to medium. Perhaps some of you could link to some of the terrible posts this guy is referencing?
This was obvious from the beginning when Medium opened the floodgates.
There is definitely room for a writing application that brings together original good articles from both professional and non-professional writers, a bit like Blendle[1] but more open.
> "Medium has become overloaded with loud, obnoxious idiots"
Yes it has, and you sir, are one of them.
"To those folks who worked so tirelessly to make Medium the shit pile it’s become, i say this: fuck off."
Medium has some great writers. Even if I find their ideas uninspiring or disagreeable, I still appreciate great writing. This isn't great writing.
What if I told you, ... "Medium IS social media"?
EDIT: I think this is why I continue to use Reddit. I created an account to subscribe to only a sub-section of subreddits, and none of them are defaults. It's what Reddit intended to be before it became what it is today. I get most of the benefit of "the platform," while avoiding _most_ of the bad actors.
I struggle to find good subreddits in the same way as subject specific forums can be (i.e physicsforums.com). Even those related to science and tech have huge chunk of crap floating around. Can you suggest how one could filter reddit content better?
Reposting (or the principle behind sharing someone else's work you find interesting) is something that's been around since the web's inception, and is actually a great thing: Hacker News itself is a link aggregator which is essentially a centralized reposting system, ordered by interest (up/downvotes). Hyperlinking is all about sharing awesome content, and there are thousands of things I never would have known about if somebody didn't reblog it, retweet it, share it on fb, or crosspost it from a different subreddit.
Originality is cool, but I'll never know about your original work if a friend of a friend of a friend didn't share it all the way down that chain until it got to me.
You could have written the best post the internet has read all year, but I can't bring myself to read past the title.
That happens because Medium has a bad discovery system - which is a huge bummer, because they have really nailed everything else.
The solution is simple - just allow users to control which content they read, simply by copying what reddit has already figured out how to do. Allow people to follow tags and browse top articles of the week/month/year, and have a separate stream where I can see posts from the people I follow.
Instead, they have an opaque algorithm, and my front page has a bunch of seemingly random posts I would never choose to see.
I wonder why not more people just use a static site generator like Hugo and host their blog themselves.
A couple other people have submitted my article and I've watched the posts climb in (~10) votes and almost make it to the front page and then magically disappear. I've tried resubmitted a number of times to no avail. From what I've read it's because medium articles are devalued here. I put a lot of work into that article and while it did get a decent amount of views (~15k) and was on High Scalability, I am pretty discouraged that I couldn't share it with the HN community.
That being said it would be kind of neat if they took on more of a wordpress strategy: 1. The blogging engine gets open sourced and is made self-hostable (in addition to hosted option) 2. They host an opt-in disqus-like widget for comments / likes. 3. The medium website did recommendation and curation for all blogs that use the widget. 4. They ran an opt-in ad-network for hosted and self-hosted alike.
I don't think wordpress strategy would work for medium. The best they can do is to improve their algoritms so that people can get good suggestions on the things of their interest. Sort of like subject circles, marketing ppl get to see their shit, engineers get to see their and other nerds can have their own cirlejerk.
PS And, what is wrong with being dressed as a biker?
Then Medium opened the doors to everyone. This caused the inevitable problem that those who came flooding in didn't necessarily care as much about the craft of writing. They just wanted to ride the wave of popularity and have their advert hosted on Medium.
The only way to solve this is careful curation which comes with it's own set of problems. The takeaway is that any platform that intends to open the doors to the general public eventually will inevitably exhibit a degradation of content. It should never be a surprise. If you don't want to be part of the next Buzzfeed then be aware going in that this is the eventual fate of all open access and free platforms for content publishing.
While I never subscribed to the idea of some centralized blog platform (though I've tried them), I don't begrudge others for taking part, nor do I judge them because they're not "artist" enough.
Whine less, do more.
I have my doubts, but anything is possible I guess.
We all like tools to encourage free speech here (I'd assume), this is just one of the negatives that comes with it.
Curation/recommendation is a hard problem that needs work. But I sincerely hope that Medium continues to offer a great platform for anyone to write, about anything. That's worth paying a lot for.
And I'm really sad that Signal v. Noise has moved to Medium, too. I miss the "Happy Monday" every time I come to the site. It feels like walking in a local bakery and having a friendly chat with the waitress. It's a warmth and sincerity I seldom find in today's websites.
They haven't. Anyone can sign up now.
Honest question: What do Medium users regard as the killer features of the platform? Can these be achieved with your own site?
My guess is that the most prominent reason is that every Medium user is on a centralized platform and therefore more discoverable. This is bound to asymptotically trend to almost zero as more people use the platform.
Am I missing something?
I was considering doing some vaguely highbrow blog posts and choosing Medium as the platform for it, precisely because it has some cachet as being the platform for quite a few political articles I read. Would hosting it myself add to or detract from the impression people would get?
The latest Wordpress version and the forthcoming Version 2 REST API (plugin, for now) is going to create huge opportunities for the creation of apps for creating and consuming great content that YOU own. :)
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To be fair, they're still part of the gentrification cycle.
Is there a term for this corporate and media agency pillage of any and every social platform?