Debian 8.4 released

Nope, it's accurate (and a shame). We've split up our SSL termination for this exact reason. Instead of doing SSL and HTTP/2 on our application servers themselves, we put a box with Debian Stretch in front of it doing just proxying and stapling on HTTP/2 + SSL. Since the box has just one very limited responsibility that's easy to test we can afford running unstable software at that point.

> Debian Jessie is apparently never going to support HTTP/2?

I suppose it depends on what you mean. The, say, nginx package in jessie itself won't get new features (by design) but the backports repositories -- which are now official -- have an nginx that supports HTTP/2. Am happily serving HTTP/2 from jessie right now :)

I submitted it, because I wondered why suddenly there were 67 updated packages available for my server. Other's might wonder as well.

I upvoted the submission, mainly because Debian doesn't get the publicity and the recognition it deserves. Debian deserves a little love once in a while.

Finally something about Linux not MS or Google, Go or Node? Dunno.

For me it was a nice reminder to update my Debian server.

Gotta make sure all the sysadmins know to update and it's more likely they are on HN than checking the update server every 2 minutes.

Debian, on server and laptop. One of the reasons for choosing Debian on the laptop is that I tend to use older hardware - currently ranging from a series of Thinkpad T42p's to a HP 2230s - which tends to balk at the sheer size of 'modern' desktop environments. I also happen to prefer something less obtrusive so I 'standardised' on a combination of Xmonad, Dzen, Trayer and Conky combined with mate- or gnome-terminal. For this, Debian is just fine. Power management sometimes needs some fiddling with before it behaves, but the same would go for Ubuntu. Last but not least, I prefer the stability of Debian - even when using Sid - over the more brittle Ubuntu. Once I've installed a machine I like to be able to keep it up to date using a simple apt (dist-)upgrade, something which tends to 'just work' with Debian but 'usually break' with Ubuntu and its derivatives (eg. Mint).

I now have one system left running LMDE (the Debian version of Mint), one on Mint, one Ubuntu (Maverick, from 2010... my wife and kids love it so I keep it as it is) and the rest is Debian. All servers are on Debian, usually a combination of Stable with some added Testing/Unstable packages.

I always put Debian on my desktops and Ubuntu on my laptops. So far, I've never had any real struggles with Debian on my desktops, but it's been an awful experience on laptops, specifically ones without an ethernet port.

I just spent a few hours installing Debian Testing on a 2 year old macbook. If you start with a net install you are mostly on your own, but starting with one of the live cds makes it pretty useable from the start. I think the big difference between the two is installing proprietary drivers. Wireless works out of the box on Ubuntu, but I have to install linux-firmware-nonfree and another broadcom package to get WiFi working on Debian.

I just tell myself that the extra work I put into a Debian install makes me more knowledgable about how the system actually works.

They're both fine. Whether you prefer to rent furnished or unfurnished apartments is a matter of taste. Either way, you'll have it like you like it within a couple of months.

You're not the only one. Recently, I decided to try Fedora, though. It seems to work very well. However, I'm somewhat uncomfortable with it. I guess Red Hat makes a living selling Linux support, which means it's probably in their interest to make things unnecessarily complex. I'm not an expert but I looked a bit at SELinux (which comes with Fedora) and it seems rather complex. Then there's Systemd etc.

This won't be the answer you are looking for but let's face some bitter truth: I have been running Linux on my laptops since 2004 and in my experience it's always a struggle (servers since 1993 are happy, it's the desktop that suffers). As of right now, this struggle no longer worths it. Just use Winux (my made up name for the Ubuntu userspace under Windows 10 plus perhaps Xming).

Debian on desktop. Ubuntu on laptop (a macbook pro) because Ubuntu supports the wifi card and Debian doesn't (out of the box, at least). I'd prefer Debian because it starts with less, but working at all is more important.

I tried to.

Apparently he claimed to have been harassed by the police, but he also was said to be incoherent and violent in his behaviours.

Bruce Perens unnicely -at my opinion that is not the most reliable in the world- disclosed his mental illness. 1 day after on his blog and /.

The family also asked for discretion. A wish that has been followed by the majority of the community. Except people like me. Because, well, I wanted to understand.

I tried to see for similar cases with google news what happened, and a non scientifically screening of hundreds of case in the USA would tend to suggests that if the victim is categorized mentally ill then news about police violence does not seems to make it higher than local news.

I am just a little pea on the internet, I have no way to confirm my conclusions are right. It would require a true journalistic investigation to infirm of confirm the case.

The conclusion I drew for myself having attended FOSS for 10 years as a topic organizer in conferences is the level of freaks tended to be higher than on average. Still not a scientific conclusion.

I naively expected the community to be aware of that. My naive expectation is that the society would recognize the positive contribution of FOSS to the IT thus to the economy and thus would try to push harder on this case.

Apparently I am naïve or delusive according to the feedback I had on this story.

Well, I encourage people to make their own opinions and investigate with their own means.

I am still a tad disappointed in my expectations.

In fact, no.

I've got a few new packages from the UK FTP site today, but if you've been keeping up to date generally there shouldn't be many updates.

This update is mainly for install media, so people installing fresh don't have to download months of updates before configuring their system for the first time.