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Your personal experience doesn't comport with the findings of sleep researchers. Later work or school start times correlate with increased sleep. This is due to biological influences on behavior (people feel tired at night and go to bed.) To take your argument ad absurdum, if your job had started at 6pm, would you have gone to bed at 11am?

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> Your personal experience doesn't comport with the findings of sleep researchers. Later work or school start times correlate with increased sleep.

Here's a reference for that (from 2002): http://bul.sagepub.com/content/86/633/3.full.pdf

> To take your argument ad absurdum, if your job had started at 6pm, would you have gone to bed at 11am?

A lot of people that do shift work sleep and wake at odd hours. Also, during undergrad and grad school I tried to schedule nothing before ~2pm. I would sleep from 6am to 2pm. ... Not sure if any of this applies to high schoolers, though.

Well my father worked 3rd shift when I was a kid, and he slept through the day time while I was at school. So, yes?

Was he tired all the time? It's been shown that shift workers never fully adjust to sleeping during the day. Children and teens need a lot more sleep than adults, so it's particularly hard for them. As a teen I worked in a bakery and later as a pastry chef, both of which involve very early starts. I loved the work, but that early alarm never got any easier.

Yes. I've had such a job and that's exactly what happened.

Children need to learn discipline. School is where they learn.

Not sure why downvoted.

I had the same thing happen in college. When classes start at 3 I go to sleep at 8am.

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