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I would love to help pump up the GDP at a new country. What I'm looking for: Efficiently run government, low corruption, policies that encourage education and health, and progressive expanded rights and freedoms. I'm in. But, based on what I know about Canada, I don't think it's it.

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Canada is the closest thing you will get to those goals without being trapped in a boring isolated Nordic European country.

You mean Europe's Canada?

How about France and Germany?

French here, France is the complete opposite of an efficient government. The bureaucracy is massive and everywhere. It's quite outside of the scope of this topic but the short answer is don't create a company there.

I'm French as well (expat, though). What you say is true, but it strikes me as a lesser evil than the ones that are plaguing USA: little social protection and high cost of education among others.

Also expat on my case (London). Yes indeed I agree. My problem with the French system is more the bureaucracy than anything else. I'm from the countryside in a post-industrial area so it makes it even worse than in cities. I have a brother who has a shop and honestly, it's impossible to manage the paperwork nowadays, I don't want to put any anecdotes here because people won't beleive me and I will probably be downvoted.

I think around ~70% of the shops in the area are close to bankruptcy and the system is crashing really hard currently. If it stays like this, everyone will be relying on some sort of black market to purchase goods in less than 10 years. While I guess main cities are still okay, things are not really working anymore in remote areas.

Take a look at the Netherlands. It fits the OP's criteria, is not isolated, and Amsterdam, for instance, is at the opposite extreme from boring.

A "boring" Nordic country sounds good to me... but how hard is it for Americans to move there and get software jobs there?

Could you expand on your reasoning for this conclusion a bit? What knowledge of Canada does not fit to these requirements? Which countries would in your opinion be a better fit?

progressive expanded rights and freedoms

If that includes freedom of speech, you may want to rethink Canada. Say something politically incorrect and expect to be pulled in front of the on Human Rights Commission to explain yourself and potentially be fined.

In terms of corruption, try googling "Sponsorship Scandal".

>Efficiently run government

>Low corruption

>policies that encourage education and health

>progressive expanded rights and freedoms.

You can chose only 3.

>You can chose only 3

I'm pretty sure you're lucky to get 1

Sounds like you want a Scandinavian country

IDK about the rest but Sweden has definitely not encouraged good education in a while.

Also, if you are fleeing from Trump's anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rhetoric (as the Bloomberg article suggests), some of those places (e.g. Denmark) might not really be the best place to go.

As an immigrant in Denmark, I can confirm. After a while here, Trump sounds like a clown with centrist political views on immigration.

Take a look at New Zealand.

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