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San Francisco has a few of these, but they're keyed to bicycle speeds (13 mph or so).

On the other hand, there was an article here about something Portugal did about speeding. Basically, they would put a useless stoplight in the middle of nowhere. Normally it's green all the time, since it's not actually an intersection. If you approach it while speeding, however, it turns red.

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A number are keyed to car speeds (eg westbound on Fell from Octavia to Stanyan and on Oak in the other direction).

They end up causing me so much frustration when someone is going just below the speed needed and I can see the lights changing sooner... and sooner... until I miss it.

Haha, which streets? I'm a bike messenger here in SF and haven't noticed any streets that are noticeably bike-paced. I have noticed car-paced series of lights like fell/oak/masonic in the haight where you have to book it at 30-40mph to make it through efficiently.

Edit: now that i'm thinking about it, a lot of the streets in the TL, fidi, and soma are pretty well timed for bikes, but for a faster pace, like 20 or so, and maybe 25-30 for the big soma streets like folsom, howard, harrison, bryant.

Valencia (between 14th and 26th) is timed at 13mph northbound in the morning, and southbound in the evening.

Oh, you're totally right. I don't work in the mission that often, so i forgot about that.

Great Highway in SF is timed to exactly 35mph IIRC.

That would never fly in America - we would prefer a method that generates revenue for the police.

Couldn't people just run the red, especially if there's no intersection?

Sounds like a perfect job for a red light camera though.

We do. Especially at night.

Normally those red lights are placed around schools and such.

If you're a responsible driver, you're already driving at the speed limit at those sites.

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