Facebook Overtakes Yahoo: Now the Second Most Visited Site in U.S.
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I would really love to see a thorough study of yahoo demographics and traffic driven, as well as how much of it is actually through partnerships (in Canada, Rogers partners with yahoo, so they kind of force feed you a lot of their services through the yahoo portals) and not direct yahoo traffic.
In the case of the latter, all tv programs have their pages, back episodes etc (where applicable) through Yahoo, which would drive traffic.
Here's a demographic study on Google vs. Yahoo from 2 years ago: http://weblogs.hitwise.com/us-heather-hopkins/2008/02/yahoo_...
Google's big groups: affluent suburbia, upscale America, rich small towns. In short: you, probably.
Yahoo's big groups: struggling societies, blue-collar backbone, remote America. In short: middle America (and also poorer urban folks).
Within Yahoo, the general consensus is that our biggest market is middle-aged housewives from the midwest. This is a big group, although as the study points out we actually trend younger than Google -- this is because our media properties, likes games, sports, and IM, attract teenagers, a market Google doesn't really serve.
While a certain amount of traffic is driven through partnerships, it's nowhere near big enough to account for Yahoo's enormous volume. Although they're not new or cool, properties like the Yahoo.com frontpage, Yahoo News (bigger than CNN and the NYTimes combined), Sports (bigger than ESPN), Finance (by far the biggest) and Mail (40% of the market) absolutely dominate their respective categories and, despite the general perception of Yahoo as a company in decline, are mostly holding steady or growing slowly in terms of audience.
The selection bias amongst tech professionals in their perception of Yahoo is a huge barrier to Yahoo's hiring, acquisition, and new tech launches -- simply put, the tech community doesn't use our products, and as a result, they believe nobody uses our products.
It simply isn't true. Yahoo isn't growing as fast as Facebook -- hence being overtaken -- but it's still growing and attracting new users every day, both domestically and worldwide. It's just not doing so in a particularly new or exciting way.
peter@broadersheet.com
good luck w/ startup.
Would be good to have some idea how the prices scale up past 10k URLs/month before signing up though.
Conversely, if you happen to have a stack of emails around for middle-aged housewives in the midwest, you'll quickly be able to verify that they Yahoo to their friends and coworkers in between browsing the Google.
Is that not considered worth fixing by the Yahoo leadership? Having good support from early adopters seems pretty important when you're a tech company...
It depends. Many of the things adopted by "early adopters" never catch on. And, fast followers often win, so if the tech crowd isn't your dominant market, their early adopters may not matter.
http://www.appliedgeographic.com/mosaic_group_j.html
The rest of the groups listed in the diagram are also listed:
http://www.appliedgeographic.com/mosaic.html
And as a postscript, describing "developing countries" as "struggling societies" is a little insulting :-)
"More than 400 million active users" http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics
For Tipjoy, Compete tracked each site that had our javascript or iframe. So any widget company is being extremely over counted.