http://blogs.ft.com/david-allen-green/2015/09/08/when-does-t...
I am mid thirties, grown up in the UK and not having guns here is amazing. People don't get shot, as a teenager in the council flats in the UK, no-one is going to turn up with a gun, or carry a gun. And unsurprisingly, people make mistakes with guns (accidents happen).
I have been forever conflicted, as I love the idea of guns, I wanted them as a kid/teenager, the idea of having such a tool is fascinating. However they are reserved for video games in my life...
The only time I may regret this is in some kind of completely hypothetical situation (zombies, aliens, gov gone crazy) which is so unlikely to happen I would rather the tools to kill each other very quickly were not legally available.
If it assures you in anyway, my grandfather who was in the war, handed in his 1911.
Experience is a dear teacher but fools will learn no other way.
Also, all it takes is some really bad times for nice people to elect a tyrant. We've seen it before many times in history.
Trump phenomenon fueled on xenophobia, racism, and authoritarianism, which is scary for minorities, is an example of a gov that could go crazy.
I would also argue that all those xenophobic trump fans can legally own guns...
After the last elections in the UK, I don't really trust the "general public" =D
>Trump phenomenon fueled on xenophobia, racism, and authoritarianism, which is scary for minorities, is an example of a gov that could go crazy.
Sentences like this are not arguments they are emotional regurgitations of fear created by endless news cycles of ad hominem attacks and half truths.
Trumphobia is the irrational fear of Donald Trump created by media attacks on a candidate they can not control.
-tweets a statistic that most white people are killed by black people, never apologizes, refuses to backtrack
-pretends he has no idea who white extremist groups or the kkk are when asked point blank whether he will disavow their support
... The list goes on and on
we need to talk about illegal immigration and criminal activity. We need to talk about Black on Black violence not just police violence. Why should he know David Duke is? and he disavowed 15 times.
I love the push back, that is what america is about having debates about important issues, not shouting down people who have different opinions.
The next day "Oh, of course I would. It was a bad earpiece they gave me, I told them it wasn't working well."
Well enough that he heard the question just fine and was able to put together a coherent (if bad) answer. Nope, blame your earpiece. Some disavowal that was.
Donald Trump knows perfectly well who David Duke is and what he stands for[0].
[0]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/03/...
fair enough, good debate on if trump knew him, but since that first interview where he claimed to have a bad ear piece he had disavowed him many times since. I know it gets a lot of air time because the media gets to say "Trump" and "kkk" in the same sentence but this is just an association fallacy and not even an evidence for anyones argument.
(slanted framing)
Because they are illegals the stats are difficult to prove or disprove.
-An estimated 25,000 of these undocumented immigrants serving sentences for homicide
-A cumulative total of 2.89 million offenses committed by these undocumented immigrants between 2003 and 2009 (although half a million of these were for immigration-related offenses)
-Among those offenses: An estimated 42,000 robberies, 70,000 sex crimes, 81,000 auto thefts, 95,000 weapons offenses, and 213,000 assaults
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-facts/anecdotes-eviden...
> Sentences like this are not arguments they are emotional regurgitations of fear created by endless news cycles of ad hominem attacks and half truths.
or maybe they're simple observations of the guy himself talking uninterrupted in his election rallies. i saw some on tv, it was embarrassing.
though you have a point, his campain does resemble Hitler's. sure, it's jews in one and brown people in the other... other than that? the greatest nation on earth under siege! let's make this country great again! they will pay for what they've done to us!
These are the qualities of hitler, I pull it to illustrate how ridiculous and lazy your arguments are.
You get offended by someone saying people coming over the boarder illegally are criminals, yet it is ok compare Trump to someone that called for the killings of tens of millions of people most not jews or brown, but white[1]. I don't see the media yelling for apologies on that one...
[0] http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/mar/15/brixton-shoot...
I'm more likely to get hit by a bus or drop dead of an aneurysm than shot and killed by anyone.
There's also just a metric fuckton of guns out there, so you'd have a hard time tracking them all down. I'm really not a gun collector, but I've personally got at least a dozen rifles and shotguns, and three or four pistols. You inherit these things... I work with a couple guys that are actually target shooting enthusiasts, and it's amazing the armories that they've put together.
Trying to say owning a handgun would prevent a clandestine branch of a first world governments assassination.
simple economics of scale... your govt cannot afford to drone kill everyone and everyone can afford a rifle / pistol... it will be bloody but an armed citizenry will always win...
assuming they care enough to fight
Who won in Northern Ireland?
One of the things that annoys me about this stupid phoney insurgency that's always brought up as a pro-gun argument is that we actually had one in the UK and it was awful.
Having an actual discussion on armed political conflict vs. the government would involve Northern Ireland, which would take far too long for HN.
You had a revolution once and talk about gun rights as if you were expecting one again. And the threat of one is hardly doing anything to contain your governments continual erosion of all of your other constitutional rights.