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Well when they raised money and just went their own way flaming vim and its maintainer seemed pretty childish.

https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Introduction#motivatio...

Here was Bram Moolenaar (Vim foudner/Maintainer) The guy didn't take money for the job but asked people to donate money to African Orphans and they do a fundraiser to cut the man off?

"It's going to be an awful lot of work, with the result that not all systems will be supported, new bugs introduced and what's the gain for the end user exactly?

Total refactoring is not a solution. It's much better to improve what we have. Perhaps with some small refactorings specifically aimed at making Vim work better for users." https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/vim_dev/x0BF9Y0Uby...

I have to say, the links you post don't really do much to bolster your case. Was there something particularly damning in the first link that I missed?

I'm also a little unclear on what Ugandan fundraising has to do with this. Does taking money for Vim development preclude charity? After all, Bram himself took donations for his work on Vim for some time. From the Vim.org sponsor page (http://www.vim.org/sponsor):

Fixing bugs and adding new features takes a lot of effort. To show your appreciation for the work and motivate Bram and others to continue working on Vim please send a donation.

Since Bram is back to a paid job the money will now (after March 2006) be used to help children in Uganda. This is the charity recommended by Vim's author. The money is used for a children centre in the south of Uganda, where AIDS has caused many victims. But at the same time donations increase Bram's motivation to keep working on Vim!

I don't see the problem here.

So saying Vim is bad because it doesn't do what it was intended and take away potential funding and mindshare with vim to do a "refactoring." They were saying make Vim good like emacs? Vim vs Emacs will never be settled and this is such a waste. Vim works and does great things. If you want to do something else entirely besides keeping vim scripts and the UI call it something else.

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