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How much more productive does the middle need to be!? Good grief, nobody is allowed to "turn off" any more. We're ALWAYS working.

Edit: And please don't kill me with semantics of "working" vs "productivity".

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  > And please don't kill me with semantics of "working" vs "productivity".

Maybe if you understood the difference between working and productivity you wouldn't be ALWAYS working.

The OP specifically called out the semantic difference between working and productivity.

Yes. In some ways it's fascinating that a person can refer directly to a concept and still not understand it.

I'm not sure how that absolves OP of the actual semantic difference between the two. You can't just say "all doors are squares, and don't kill me with the semantic difference between 'square' and 'rectangle.'"

Sigh. I do understand it.

Sadly, you still missed the point.

Do you believe the numbers about how the average workweek has gotten shorter over the past 100 years?

Table 2 and 3 in the article below contain info like what I'm talking about.

https://eh.net/encyclopedia/hours-of-work-in-u-s-history/

I generally consider myself a pro-capitalist rational optimist, but we are a lot richer than we were 100 years ago, and my workweek is still 50+ hours a week. I wonder when we will get those 10 hour workweeks...

Why are you working 50 hours a week? I hope you're getting compensated extra for the extra work you're doing.

I don't know OP's situation, but there are companies out there that will upfront tell you expected hours for your salaried position being X. A few years ago, a recruiter told me 65 hours was expected for a role at their mega-tech company.

When that's happened to me, I didn't take the job.

Same here.

Do you get paid overtime? If not, why are you working 10 "free" hours a week? It's people like you that are ruining it for the rest of us.

I think they point is you shouldn't be working ALL THE TIME. There is something wrong with your life.....you can fix it.

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