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This picture on wikipedia of the dam has a really beautiful contrast between the water and the land around it (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Mo...) Also draws attention to the fact that there's a massive amount of water behind the dam.

edit: wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosul_Dam, to save you the effort of googling :)

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Any satellite view gives you even better idea about the amount of the water and the danger for Mosul:

http://i.imgur.com/Fg847Xe.jpg

And for the size, even when you see the whole Mediterranean, the lake is still visible (on the right)!

http://i.imgur.com/5ktcQEr.jpg

The areas affected in Mosul, the location of other cities that are affected and the structure of the dam are successfully presented in the Guardian's article:

https://interactive.guim.co.uk/uploader/embed/2016/03/mosuld...

i just want to point out that the fail-safe was abandoned due to sanctions against Iraq. I hope people remember things like this when they openly promote sanctions against countries whose leaders we disagree with. We aren't hurting the leaders, we're hurting the citizenry. And we are certainly not bringing them to our side. We are causing real suffering and death of innocent people.

for example, clinton's iraq sanctions were one of osama bin ladens stated justifications:

UNICEF: 500,000 children (including sanctions, collateral effects of war). "[As of 1999] [c]hildren under 5 years of age are dying at more than twice the rate they were ten years ago." (As is customary, this report was based on a survey conducted in cooperation with the Iraqi government and by local authorities in the provinces not controlled by the Iraqi government)[35]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iraq#Effects...

Yes. And the sanctions were just one part of all bad things that happened in the area. Also see my other comments here for more on the same subject (like what Madeleine Albright had to say about these dead children). And the "WMD story" was effectively invented as an excuse for the US to start the 2003 war. The war was planned even before G.W. became president (search about the "Project for the New American Century" or the goals of Saudi Arabia after 1991, who really wanted Saddam away but just didn't like the full war by the US). There was also no al-Qaeda in Iraq there then: only the effects of 2003 war brought them in. The 9/11 attackers were mostly Saudis (15 from 19), and only the US officials' propaganda made "assumed" connections with Saddam. And the UK even faked the report about WMD by doing a copy paste of the 13-years old work of some Californian student they have found on the Internet(!) Bush actually already wanted to attack Iraq right after 9/11, even before the propaganda started, according to the people who worked with him at the time, and Tony Blair jumped where Bush wanted. Anyway, the war was portrayed as the way to "bring the democracy" to Iraq. Back to the dam, the US effectively took the responsibility for the area since 2003, but they also haven't done anything to finish the second dam, which was cancelled earlier because of the sanctions. The US "aid" for the dam was $25m, a fourth of the price of just one F-35. And before the war, the "opportunity" for development was promoted as "using the profit of Iraqi oil to rebuild the infrastructure".

That's a good point you make about US reconstruction or lack thereof. I wonder if any of the Marines on here who were in Iraq could explain why this buffer dam didn't get built? It seems a perfect large scale infrastructure project and it doesn't even have to work much.

> formerly known as Saddam Dam

such an opportunity lost to call it SadDam

:( Damn.

SadDamnit!

If the dam knew how it was built, it would be a sad dam.

Hussien they didn't think of that?

For more context, at just over 11 cubic km it's roughly twice as large as Shasta Lake[0]—California's largest reservoir.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shasta_Lake#/media/File%3A65...

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