Rich Hickey Fanclub

Ditto. Great talk.

That and Hammock Driven Development: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84n5oFoZBc

Both of these talks are in my top 5.

Edit (okay, here are the other 3):

* All the Little Things by Sandi Metz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZh5LMaSmE

* Programming is terrible—Lessons learned from a life wasted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csyL9EC0S0c

* Some talk I saw by Dan McKinley on making Data-Driven decisions. I can't find the original video, but here's a really similar one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZOeV-S-2co

I read through the repo and it's basically a page about his work. There's very little there that isn't totally objective. Cults tend to go on and on about things that either don't exist or are being attributed great powers that are, at best, not objectively verifiable, or at worst, are objective refutable. This seems to have neither.

I think you're being a little too literal here.

Penalizing the language because the people who use it really like the creator seems like an odd way to approach languages.

That said, I will say that Rich's talks and his approach resonate with me in ways that none of those other guys you mentioned do.

It may just be how he chooses to structure his talks and how he expresses himself, but his willingness to both critique existing systems and provide (arguably) better solutions is really refreshing. I don't see that being communicated well in other talks.

The page is basically The collected works. I have The Complete Works of Mark Twain, that doesn't make me a cult follower. The same with this page.

A = {Rich Hickey fans}

B = {Clojure developers}

(A \ B) ∪ (B \ A) ≠ ∅

So you're suspicious of your friends and are forming your opinion on a programming language based on that? Right....

He may be cute, but he's no Hadley Wickham!

- R Fan Club

>Is there a Martin Odersky fanclub? Or Brendan Eich? Or Rob Pike?

No, Hickey has a fan club. Go is a cult -- and judging from the language design, it's a "back to nature", Amish kind of affair.

K&R? DHH? Matz? Joe Armstrong? Guido? Larry Wall? I'd say those all have bigger 'followings' than Rich Hickey, or at least did back in their time.

What about Python's Guido van Rossum? Or Larry Wall I am much more suspicious of them than of Hickey.

Maybe if you spent more time with the material you would be less suspicious?

Does any of them has any charisma?