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They dared to mention Baby Metal, which has like nothing to do with real metal.

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Poe's Law applies to metal.

Is Turbonegro metal?

> Is Turbonegro metal?

Punk.

Well, but they call their genre "black metal".

Is punk metal satire?

What about grunge?

And then there's Kiss ;)

> Well, but they call their genre "black metal".

As far as I know they call it deathpunk, and their discography tends to be classified as punk.

I think that they've called it both, and many other things too. But then, I don't speak the language.

My broader point is that there's a lot of metal parody in punk. And a lot of metal is arguably metal parody.

Ah, I miss grunge with a fiery passion.

This thread reminds me of the underrated film Airheads, when the band is asked what kind of music they play - the three members all start saying different things ("kinda this, but not really") but end up converging on "power slop".

Airheads is a guilty pleasure film for me. It's a pretty dumb film, but I like it anyway, and I think it's aged pretty well over the years.

There are so many derivatives that are accepted. I don't see why not this one. I would understand if it were watered down or something. Could you elaborate?

Heard them right now - they catch a person by a surprise. But what is real metal anyway - are HIM counted as real?

And so the "it's not real metal" arguing begins...

Well in Japan the whole pop music scene is a farce - putting idols together just to grab the massive otaku market, and trying to make music in different genres (electro, hip hop, and now metal) just to differentiate because the girls are all underaged and unable to sing anyway.

Regardless of how vapid Japanese pop music is, I had the "metal-not-metal" argument enough times when I was a teenager to know that it's nothing more than an easy way to waste 30 minutes.

When did Metallica stop being metal? Was it "Metallica", "Load", or St. Anger? Were they ever metal? Does anyone over the age of 16 care? (the answer is yes).

I guess it goes from both ends. From what I understand, Marty Friedman (of Megadeth and Cacophony fame; there are few metal guitarists better than him) is now playing J-Pop, not even pretending to be metal.

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