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The result is cool, but screw people doing that.

did you read the part where it says: These are the red imported fire ants (RIFA) which are harmful to the environment and their nests are exterminated by the millions in the United States using poisons, gasoline and fire, boiling water

they are apparently doing the environment a favor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_imported_fire_ant#Counterm...

Still a disgusting practice. You can go ahead and say the tusk on your wall is from an elephant hunt that you paid 15k for which went to starving African children.

Everyone is still going to be disgusted by the fact that you killed an elephant, or killed 10 million ants, for your fancy shmancy art piece.

How about if you kill them without producing an art piece in the process, because they're a pest? Is that also immoral?

I believe it's in bad taste. We don't make art out of executed criminals. In the same vain, making art out of pests is reprehensible.

Bad taste yes, but bad taste is subjective. Morality (should be) objective, so it's one thing to say "I don't like this" (I don't like it either), and another thing to say "nobody should like this".

Morality isn't black and white. It's somewhat bad to be killing ants but let's not say it's on the same level as killing sentient life. It's just a rather shitty thing to do.

The issue here isn't whether or not to kill ants (we're killing them anyway), it's whether it's immoral to make art out of their nests.

Considering the very thing that is the object of beauty, it seems perverse to have destroyed it and its forebearers in entirety to produce it. Something akin to a buffoon's take on art.

Oh, you must be an alien. My species, humanity, has been displaying the corpses of criminals for the entirity of its existence and continues to create paintings, songs and movies about it. The question is more "Is it art, or is it porn?", followed by " Is porn art?". Find me a catholic church which doesn't have a cast crucifix. That the ants were in the 'mold' feels like an implementation detail. They were scheduled for death. Weather the aluminium was poured before or after the extermination feels like an implementation detail. But do I want one? Fuck, no. It was interesting for science, but once was enough.

"Hey, look at those ants on that blue planet. Are you ready to fire the Death Star?" "Armed and ready, planet has gone molten. Awesome, get the contracts ready, I got dibs on the cast of the NYC subway, I heard that those ants really loved those tunnels, man, it's gonna look awesome in my gazeebo."

"They were an invasive species anyway, always scheming to extend beyond their own planet."

Yep, or the hornet's nest on your porch.

Now you've added an immediate threat to safety. Things change. After all, the goal of steadystate life is to survive. Don't try to cross the two.

Not really a good analogy. Elephants are not an imported pest animal. And if it was a really old elephant, I think a lot of people would be OK about selling hunting licenses for large sums of money that benefit the community.

A better analogy is cane toads in Australia. Those things have become such a threat to local wildlife, they are killed indiscriminantly. And yes, they are turned into 'art', even if they are tacky http://toadshop.com/7-all-items

not all casts are. look at the less "bushy/rooty" ones, they are e.g. "Ant Type: Field Ants (Formica pallidefulva)"

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