How To Become A Spammer Regardless Of People Following You On Twitter

I don't know. I read the original article and felt he was talking about building numerous cheap apps and selling those to get rich quick instead of building a single one and hopping it will take over the market. I did not felt like he was talking about spaming!

Few days back there was someone here who told us that he was getting as much as 1 thousand dollars EVERYDAY by developing many small apps for the iPhone and selling those. This is opposite of putting all your time on a single iPhone app and betting on it.

The original article was really helpful for me. I disagree with those that are getting a different message from it.

"I know he is not just advocating building made-for-adsense sites, it’s not the method, it’s the attitude that goes with it, that is the real issue. Lets not care about providing any kind of value, lets not worry about any sort of professionalism, all we want to do is scam some suckers out of $1 a day and believe you me there are plenty of suckers on the web."

I don't get this common reaction to the post? What's wrong with providing something for a dollar, if it's worth a dollar?

What's necessarily unprofessional about providing something worth a dollar?

What is it about online entities that make it necessary for them to be somehow more "worthy" than most peoples' daily slog in a cubicle or behind a register? Yes, the internet makes it more possible to make "worthy" entities, but why must they be worthy?

Just because some people associate their better instincts and identity with the internet doesn't mean that everyone should do the same. Otherwise we'd all be driving Priuses.

I think we need to view maxklein's blog posts through the prism of what he's setting out to achieve. He has mentioned a few times that he's in a "notoriety building" phase (my words, not his) with a view to exploiting that at a later date.

Right now he's generating buzz around his personal brand so that when he does have something he really wants to shout about he'll have people ready to listen.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with this approach as such - but keeping it in mind does temper my expectations when I read one of his articles. It's less "I wonder if I'll learn anything new/interesting" than "I wonder how he's going to draw a reaction with this"

The moral argument defended in the article is mute in the business world, because there are some people that can have fun doing anything (even selling crappy $1 products). If you are not happy with competing with them, then find something else to do, but don't tell them that they shouldn't be doing it. You are just trying to apply your moral standards to somebody else.

If there are people willing to create $1 "crappy" products, and people that want to buy them, I think this pretty good.

I believe this guy misses the point of Klein's post. He definitely misses the point I thought Klein was making, which is: if you're having a hard time finding a market where there is money to be made, just try to enter some markets and probably fail lots of times. After a few dozen attempts, you are bound to find one in which you can make a buck. The methods you use to achieve that are not the main point of Klein's post and, frankly, irrelevant. This article cracks down on the methods Klein supposedly promotes, which feels like one huge straw man.

I think there is a whole spectrum of making money online, from scamming/phishing and the like all the way to squeaky clean, not one bit optimized (SEO, conversions) shopping cart.

The debate is where you draw the line to define something as spam, and it also depends on your definition of spam. I mean, you can twist Google's business model and say it's scraping other people's content and plastering ads all over its pages. That sounds horribly close to a definition of spam and yet people love the search results from Google.

I gotta say, there are a lot of adsense sites and affiliate marketing that isn't spammy...for example, a large portion of ehow articles, amazon affiliate links, etc. Just because some people do micro niche blogging and profit unrespectably doesn't mean every one does, I do some made for adsense sites but they are written to be high quality, useful, and ad-click generating.

I don't agree with Max' position 100%, but what he's advocating is not spam per se, and the attitude of having 100 dripping taps instead of a single firehose is one that is hard to assail from a 'robustness' principle.

If you only have one horse in the race, if it dies you're toast, so having 10's or even 100's of little sites is good business in the sense that it will never die overnight.

Let me give you some examples of sites I built in that vein, now both defunct because the $1 / day target was not even in sight.

I built a platform that allows you to sell stuff online, and because I figured the good advertising and affiliate money is in financial products I focused on houses and cars.

The two sites were close enough that they could share a single database, free to use for the user and attracted a small group of users from various countries.

But that's where I missed the boat, this sort of thing doesn't work on an international basis, you have to tailor it to each and every market specifically. So what started out as a vision of low maintenance useful sites with solid income slowly morphed in to high maintenance sites with low income. In other words failures.

Spam didn't enter in to it, and if the concept would have been successful I can see a lot of ways in which to create further 'clones'.

Then there was Max' example of the site with the owls. There is quite a bit wrong with that whole view, for one it doesn't really add value, after all, if you go to youtube and type in 'owls' you get the exact same list. Only with a couple of twists, for one that list is up to date, no broken links. Whereas any 'collection' of youtube video links that you maintain will have to be checked periodically for broken links (this can be automated though).

Finding a successful 'template' that you can clone is an essential component to the scaling of many businesses, each of the clones can then be targeted at verticals, just like what I tried to do with the cars & houses, you could do with owls and penguins.

But the line for me gets drawn at having nothing but links to other peoples content, aggregation with razor thin added value is too cheap and spammy to me, I'd like projects to have a bit more meat. But that also means that you'll be investing more time and that may eventually not be worth it, especially not if a project fails.

There's something to be learned from Max' treatise, I agree with the initial impression that it advocates spammy thin sites, but if you look at that as a way of testing the waters to see what has 'legs' then it may not be all that bad.

And I'm really curious about how his experiment with the site he's going to be building will pan out.

As high brow as we'd all like to be, the honest truth is the only measure in business relates to profits. How much you can make and how quickly.

Your investors don't care how you make money, so long as it doesn't impede the making of future money.

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