Don't view ads. Wired doesn't care about you. You contribute nothing back anyway.
So by making it a little harder, at least some of those people with morals will be pushed in the right direction to pay or white list ads for free content.
Don't view ads. Wired doesn't care about you. You contribute nothing back anyway.
So by making it a little harder, at least some of those people with morals will be pushed in the right direction to pay or white list ads for free content.
Nice.
You might take a moment to consider that some of us who block ads are more concerned about the morality (read: more or less utter lack thereof) of the a̶d̶v̶e̶r̶t̶i̶s̶e̶r̶s̶ trackers than we are the revenue some arbitrary site may or may not lose from missing our impressions before you start casting stones wildly about like that.
I'd probably be very willing to consider whitelisting sites who worked with advertisers that didn't run tracking programs most of the Three Letter Agencies in the West would kill to access — if they didn't already have behind-the-scenes arrangements with them. But that question is probably pretty moot at this point, isn't it?
Regardless, calling it a "crusade" is the same kind of argument-poisoning that the GP uses with his "people with morals" quip. If you can't have a discussion without resorting to that kind of rhetoric — term used very damned loosely — then, personally, I don't think you've got much of a point.
Apparently using correct words is now argument poisoning charged rhetoric.
Okay.
Sorry if you don't like when the definitions of words match what you are doing.
"If you can't have a discussion without resorting to that kind of rhetoric — term used very damned loosely — then, personally, I don't think you've got much of a point."
Let's look at who is using rhetoric here: "morality (read: more or less utter lack thereof) of the a̶d̶v̶e̶r̶t̶i̶s̶e̶r̶s̶ trackers than "
Yeah, i guess i couldn't agree more with you.
Yes, if the content is good enough to warrant paying for a subscription.
> Or does that all conveniently fall by the wayside in your crusade?
Nope, and there's no reason to muddy the waters with terms like crusade.
So if it's not, you just view it anyway?
"Nope, and there's no reason to muddy the waters with terms like crusade. "
It's pretty rich to make a moral argument the way the parent did and have a problem with a term like crusade, which is a precise and correct term to describe this.
Yes, because I decide what authors and publications I choose to support based on what they publish. You might think I'm "taking free samples too far", but you can always flick through a magazine before buying it in a store -- what is the difference here? Paying for a publication when you have no idea what they produce is just being a bad consumer.
> > "Nope, and there's no reason to muddy the waters with terms like crusade. "
> It's pretty rich to make a moral argument the way the parent did and have a problem with a term like crusade, which is a precise and correct term to describe this.
Well, to be fair GP made a similar moral argument, so I guess they also have a crusade?
As opposed to those without morals who won't white list the trackers or pay up?
As opposed to those moral upstanding citizens that run the advertising industry?
I don't think that the 'morals' bit needs to be in there, in fact it would be stronger without.
The response is, we'll weaponize and win.
Or excuses about how I don't contribute anything but might bring in someone who does, so how dare you. You are going to fail.
These are not evidence based arguments. It's not to hard to block Ad Block users.
Other media companies have survived with paywalls AND ads.
And even if it doesn't work out, Wired can pull back and at least say they tried.
It's the self righteous behaviour about it that's immoral. The glee at that they might fail. This can be read both above and below the lines.
And honestly, if there really is a wall that isn't casually circumventable, then I just won't read it. I don't care enough to pay.
If they curated some constantly brilliant content, I'd jump on paying them. But as it is, I rarely end up there anyway.
You really got to realize this is not about showing ads, ie. some plain jpg/gifs--which a lot of people would accept--but loading tons of tracking scripts that slow you down and violate your privacy. So yeah, I'm gonna protect against that, I don't deem it as an acceptable choice.
They are asking to violate your privacy by feeding your personal information to an ad network. If they were clear about the exchange they expected (personal info for articles), then people wouldn't be so harsh on them. It's pretending that their proposition is just seeing a little ad that's misleading to the point of being immoral.
>It's the self righteous behaviour about it that's immoral
I wouldn't call people being upset that wired has made this anti-privacy decision to force people into an all or nothing subscription self-righteous because it's not unfounded. This is a big middle finger to anyone who cares about privacy.
Losing 20% of their audience may have really painful effects on their reader network.
It is shortsighted to value your readers only for their capacity to view and click advertisements.
Readers also act as distribution nodes, sharing content that they find compelling with others who may or may not use ad blockers.
Building walls will result in fewer readers, and as you've noted, less traffic will be bad in the long term...
As a publication they have little to offer to justify their high subscription cost and the portion of people interested in tech who don't use an ad blocker will eventually be the empty set.
Alternatively they could offer tasteful text and image ads served from their own domain and many people would be willing to allow them.
So tech is having a shake-out at the moment - many assumptions being questioned, many business models being challenged, many unicorns revealed as dead horses.
Considering how little of genuine value these businesses contribute - including Wired - I'm not sure they're going to be heavily mourned if they disappear.
Is anyone really going to mind much if the Distraction Economy dies over the next few years?