> Product owners (I haven't had many) just want to know "are we there yet?" and will rarely open any tool or learn how they work - they just badger the PM via email or in meetings.

A little off-topic, but that's definitely not what I expect from a PO. On the contrary, a PO should be highly involved in the tool used to track the features that they have requested and defined, the bugs that they have identified, etc.

Most of my career has been at smaller startups so maybe product owners have a different role in larger organizations.