China Has Released True Color HD Photos of the Moon
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[1] https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/Apollo_11_TV_Tapes_Report.p...
The whole 6 part documentary series are worth watching for anyone remotely interested in space, but here's a small sample of the quality of the moon landing video footage: https://kristofferR.com/files/moonlanding_footage_HD.mkv
[1] http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a17/AS17-134-...
Twelve hasselblad cameras were left behind on the moons surface.
It was not that many years ago, around y2k or shortly thereafter if I remember correctly, that hasselblad finally decided that digital photography could match the picture quality their cameras achieved using traditional/analog film and started to manufacture digital options for their cameras.
When I look at the pictures from the moon I start to understand why they held a stiff upper lip for so many years.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasselblad#Hasselblad_cameras_...
That said, I wish I didn't get rid of my old cameras, and 2.8 lenses. I wish I still had my BW darkroom still set up in my closet.
My pictures are all color now. They are technically fine, but my older pictures just look more interesting.
And when they did go digital, it was slightly ridiculous. I mean, the cheapest option of the H3DII which launched in 2007 had 50% more megapixels than the most expensive Canon or Nikon camera you could buy that year. With almost twice the sensor area of a full-format DSLR the pixel count wasn't for show either. One of those low-end H3DII bodies (without a lens) in OK condition goes for more than $2000 today.
It's just that they are medium format cameras, and used larger size film, which gives more resolution.
But that's not unique to Hasselblad -- lots of companies had (and some still have) medium format analog cameras at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_filter
With three exposures you get to use the full resolution of the camera for each channel, so you end up a more detailed image and fewer artifacts... unless something moves, in which case you'll get strange colored ghosts.
People hear that space images are composites, and therefore somehow conclude that they're "not real."- but all consumer digital color photography are digital composites thanks to Bayer (and Bayer-style) filters, white balance adjustment, sharpening and denoise that are all baked into your JPEGs before you see them.
I'm waiting for someone to compare these composite images, with their possibly different colors, to the Apollo film images. How can they both be of the same place if the sand is a different color? Get ready for some new conspiracy theories.
Back then every photographer knew that various color films of the same type would render scenes differently. Every manufacturing process produces biases in results, the color-forming dyes at the core of color films responded in subtly distinguishable ways reflecting their explicitly unique chemical compositions.
In the current digital era, vendors produce "image processing engines" that correspond to film chemistry and just as variable. Camera-makers advertise particular "color signatures" to help promote sales and brand loyalty.
Relevantly, witness the endless discussion in photo "gear forums" over which rendition is the most "correct". Arguably we could say "all of the above", a case could be made one is as accurate as another since there is no single standard measurement of "accuracy".
Bottom line is I wouldn't expect any given Hasselblad to produce two photos with the same color rendering when they're shot on different brands of film. Comparing the Apollo moon landscape with the Chinese digital images will inevitably show differences, but we couldn't really say which is closer to how it "really" looks.
We couldn’t, but we could just ask the Apollo Astronauts.
Clicks link
Sees animated gif of said images
facepalm
36 megapixels. which is >> than the 2megapixels of HD
"They saw the staggering jewels of the night in their infinite dust and their minds sang with fear. For a while they flew on, motionless against the starry sweep of the Galaxy, itself motionless against the infinite sweep of the Universe. And then they turned round. “It’ll have to go,” the men of Krikkit said as they headed back for home. On the way back they sang a number of tuneful and reflective songs on the subjects of peace, justice, morality, culture, sport, family life and the obliteration of all other life forms."
Life, the Universe and Everything"With [...] private companies planning to profit off of lunar resources, the moon is about to become a much busier destination."
Are there really such plans? Can anybody explain what the article refers to here specifically?
http://www.lunarlandowner.com/standard_gift_package_details....
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Chinese_Stories/Houyi_and_Chan...
http://tobyvervaart.com.au/moon/
* caveats: probably not to the correct scale
I'd love to pinchzoom on the photos, but techcrunch has disabled it
Couldn't help thinking of this:
http://calvin-and-hobbes-comic-strips.blogspot.com/2011/11/c...
Credit where due. This isn't footage from afar, but from something standing on the moon.
There is no real reason these couldn't be an HD video instead (or in addition to).
Japanese did flyby around the moon in 2007 and recorded a video.
http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2016/0128165...
It's their damn "read more" button. If I rotate to portrait I'm able to tap the button to unbreak the page.
Also I wonder, if someone ever release HD pictures of the stuff the manned landings left behind, will people stop believing that moon landing was a Hoax?
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/26/entertainment/rapper-bob-e...
That seems to be what all the fuss is about.
Just taking a look at the Wikipedia page for the arguments gives you a good idea for the arguments made:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theori...
If you read through a bit, you'll see a few arguments that people propose, that don't refute laser reflectors being on the surface.
Again, I realize we're supposed to be piling on a strawman here, but I hope we can all maintain open minds.
What do I gain by entertaining crazy wrong ideas? Other than practise in refuting crazy ideas.
The "strongest" version is that we have landed many spacecraft on the moon (placing mirrors, artifacts, etc), but the human part was staged. I think a Chinese photo of clear and obvious _human_ presense on the moon actually would be a big deal as far as putting all the craziness to bed.
Otherwise they are not worthy of consideration. So why keep an open mind towards moon hoax ideas?
The section on that wikipedia page on retroreflectors does not mention any theories that allows for it to be there, and glossing over the page a bit, it states that "the foremost idea is that the whole manned landing program was a hoax from start to end."
I would appreciate a discussion of any argument you have found that allows for retroreflectors.
The main argument is that the lunar landings weren't manned for one or more of the landings. And indeed, right there on the page, it says:
> Smaller retroreflectors were also put on the Moon by the Russians; they were attached to the unmanned lunar rovers Lunokhod 1 and Lunokhod 2.
The existence of the Russian retroreflectors shows reflectors could be deployed without human intervention.
And further:
> Lick Observatory attempted to detect from Apollo 11's retroreflector while Armstrong and Aldrin were still on the Moon but did not succeed until August 1, 1969.[197] The Apollo 14 astronauts deployed a retroreflector on February 5, 1971, and McDonald Observatory detected it the same day.
The argument here is that if the retroreflectors were deployed by Apollo 11, they should have been detectable within the day, not 10 days after their supposed human caused deployment.
Again, this is just the argument presented, not an endorsement.
Edited to add: the laser power needed is a few watts average, and the telescope aperture needed is probably 30cm at least, with a tracking mount. Without a picosecond laser, you're not going to be able to measure the distance accurately, but you could probably see a detectable line on a scatterplot or waterfall display.
The Soviets put reflectors on the Moon, too, without human assistance... so it really does nothing to convince the hoax-believers.
No, they'll just think China made replicas of the original items and placed them on the moon to be photographed as part of a global conspiracy.