The Uberwomen Who Beat Sleep: Origin of the "Uberman" polyphasic sleep schedule
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If true, I think that's the most important point of the article. If you can't trust your own brain, you can't any claims made by people trying that sort of schedule.
Also, the amount of effort you have to put up with in order to even start sleeping like that suggests me that's unnatural and unhealthy. We may even have some kind of adaptation for that in the short term. Think cavemen who just lost his shelter and needs to find another in dangerous territory. It's conceivable that one could spend a few weeks not sleeping much until conditions improve. Forget about longer term effects, since survival is at stake. So, the brain keeps getting pulled out of sleep due to perceived dangers (in modern times, that's the alarm clock). Then it switches off part of the sleep mechanism so that the subject will have a better chance of moving away from danger.
It is true.
Exhaustion [past a certain point] is essentially equivalent to being drunk.
http://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/sleep-deprivation-is-as-...
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1739867/
> Moderate sleep deprivation produces impairments in cognitive and motor performance equivalent to legally prescribed levels of alcohol intoxication
Much like with a drunk person, you can't trust what they are telling you.
I know for me, getting to the point where I could fall asleep for the naps was the hardest part. I ended up basically skipping a night of sleep and then entering into the nap protocol. That first couple of weeks was brutal but I stayed on a polyphasic sleep schedule for about 6 months.
I can't definitively say that my cognitive function wasn't reduced over that 6 month period, but it certainly wasn't like being drunk.
At the time I was a professional poker player and I was not measurably less profitable per 100 hands and played a much higher volume than normal during that stretch. Ultimately I stopped the cycle due to loneliness. I already had a very solitary job, but adding another 6 - 8 hours of alone time to each day weighs on you for sure. I think with a normal, albeit flexible, job this would have been more sustainable for me.
Fwiw, I agree with you in so far as your logic goes.
However, as it can would be fatal based on the main stream understanding of how sleep deprivation works, I can't say I'd support such a study since it would likely kill at least one person and/or otherwise fuck up their health seriously.
I had to pay around a thousand usd for a sleep study, and had to see a sleep specialist for a year. He told me I was pretty lucky, if I tried it any longer I could have gotten permanent brain damage. He was suspicious of polyphasic claims, because he often saw people use modafinil in conjunction with this(especially among lawyers).
Maybe some people are genetically predisposed to this form of sleeping, but running experiments on yourself may not be worth it.
He proclaims in his daily vlog, to regularly getting 4-5 hours of sleep. On top of that, he runs 8-14 miles (at a sub 8 minute pace), nearly every day.
On top of that, he has a new born, and just launched a thriving tech company - Beme.
I saw a post somewhere that suggested he is likely using modafinil. I wonder how many of these uber-successful people, are using modafinil to shorten their sleep cycle?
You would need a control group, group with day, forced 8h sleep both biphasic and monophasic, and a group on this fancy multiphasic schedule.
Expensive to run.
Well, even if you don't, you're still damn lucky to have that kind of energy.
To what do you attribute this ability? Have you always been a short-sleeper? Is it something you've worked toward? Is age a factor? Diet?
I know several people like this, my gut tells me it's not super uncommon.
It was not always like this , but the older I get the less sleep I seem to need. In my 20s would feel groggy on 5 hours of sleep, but in my 30s ( current age ) I feel groggy if I get more than 5 hours sleep.
I haven't been able to "sleep in" since I was probably 15 or 16.
Some people probably call this being a morning person, to over simplify it heavily.
Edit: if you do some light googling there is a substantial anoint of data on the internet that claims 8 hours of sleep is too much and 6 is closer to ideal for full grown adults. So getting 4-5 and a healthy dose of exercise does not seem in the realm of supernatural to me. Give it a shot! ( don't leave out the exercise either )
On the other end of the spectrum, you have individuals like myself. From my teens into my early twenties, my ideal sleep cycle was 4am to 1:00pm. Probably still would be my ideal sleep cycle, if that fit into civilization.
It's hilarious to think I could maybe survive on 5 hours. Go to sleep at 4, wake up at 9? Hah, ya right.
The best science I've been able to find on the subject seems to match that experience. Some people can "feel fine" on a polyphasic schedule, but in tests there does seem to be a decline in performance. Slower response times and less accuracy on hand-eye tests, etc. that is similar to the decline experienced by sleep deprived subjects.
I'd love to have several extra hours a day, but from what I can tell, there are trade offs that nullify the productivity and "more time" advantages.
I would like to know more about their claim of the unimportance of light sleep. I also don't like that the people cited in the article are writing books and pushing product.
[1] http://www.polyphasicsociety.com/polyphasic-sleep/beginners/
Aside from those sanctioned sleeping periods, I'd estimate he was maybe a third actually-awake about seventy percent of the time.
I think the worst thing I saw ever was this woman who was having cereal while going 75+ MPH on the highway. She was holding the bowl in her left hand, she'd move her right hand off the wheel, reach down (assuming to the cup holder), grab a spoon, lift it, dip in the bowl, move to her mouth and then return the spoon back to its position before reaching up to grab the wheel again. The whole procedure takes somewhere north of 5 seconds to accomplish. Add to that the fact that she was going at least 20 over the limit and that at any point in time, her eyes are shifting to look into the bowl to see if she's scooped enough, down to the cup holder to check and make sure she's picked up/dropped the spoon properly and you're in trouble.
It has to do with orexin. Orexin helps keep you awake. But you produce less of it when you are sedentary or bored. When there is mental engagement with a task, it is easier to stay awake.
The very qualities that make limited access highways useful for most of us, to get places more quickly, make them deadly for people with orexin-deficiency sleep disorders.
That's why I hope polyphasic sleep experimenters only drive on the interesting or challenging stretches of road.
Is anyone doing cognitive tests to ensure that your brain is actually working optimally and answering hard questions?