Stephen Colbert gets ahold of an iPad during the Grammys
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Why is there an 'or' in that sentence?
~ 20 million in US only?
"The 3 1/2-hour music awards show on CBS was seen by 19.05 million US households (in 2009), compared to 17.18 million in 2008, according to early data from Nielsen Media Research."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/4...
Part of the beauty of Colbert's television persona is that he can shamelessly shill for products, and then pass it off as "just part of the character."
But seriously though, I think the iPad is going to be the next big revolution: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1091208 (I'm really desperate for readers).
I always viewed HN as a place where I could go for reviews or receive some advice from other people seeking the same thing. Yet, it seems the groups I once called home are showing this aura of 'elitist' instead of lending a hand.
If HN is the group we associate with, why is a harmless plug after a comment on a fresh blog such a terrible thing? We want the group we associate with to give us feedback!
Do I need to take out a loan, invest $30,000 in a startup, and get VC funded to be able to plug a website?
I guess this is over-dramatization and full of useless e-motions; and not entirely aimed at HN, but communities in general. I participate in a few forums, but let a few years pass by and this elitist wave of old timers seems to just mock/bash the people coming up from the bottom.
If plugging a site isn't the right thing to do, explain why, and give some advice for pulling in readers. If HN is your only community and you don't have some massively read site, how do you get fresh readers?
edit: (I told you I was being over-dramatic), but yeah, I do tend to click the "Review my App: etc."
EDIT: Can you tell me how I should have approached this then?
I linked to the submission because I was hoping it would jumpstart it so that more people could see it. If I only linked to my blog post then I couldn't potentially bump up my HN submission. It was a practical decision, and morally I don't see what's wrong with it.
I could understand if people didn't bite, but I'm a little overwhelmed by the negativity. Sometimes this place can feel a little too stiff.
ie, Ask HN: Review my App/project/hobby-site
You can even submit your own site/blog as often as you want (as long as it is relevant to the audience), it is up to the audience to decide whether it merits 'upvotes' or not.
What chrischen did was not self-plugging or self promotion, it was just spamming.
Sorry if I offended anyone, but I want to offer an explanation as to why it's the only blog post. I don't have a blog. That's why it's the only blog post, and I've heard that it'd be better to submit a blog post instead of typing it all in the comment when submitting. So I decided to start a blog.
I really wanted to get that post out and google blogs kept on rejecting my display name so I kept adding to it until it worked. I also really wanted to go to sleep last night. But I am actually going to keep that URL, at least until I buy my own personal domain.
So yea I didn't intend to "spam" and I think I had something meaningful to say, so before you go ahead and label it as spam, please at least read it.
Also to address your statement about merit: I think that only applies in a perfectly ideal system. No offense to HN, but I don't think the system is perfectly ideal yet. I think there are probably tons of stuff that are deserving of attention but simply posted at the wrong time. I know this because I've seen lots of people post "duplicate" and what else could have caused it than the fact that the system somehow failed. And because I don't have perfect faith in the system I feel I had to "plug" it. But I did my best not to cheat. I think my link was at least somewhat appropriate (also I tried to be upfront about the promotion too by admitting I was desperate--that wasn't edited in).
So if you truly believe in a meritocracy, then please, I'll ask again, take a look at the article and determine its merit by the article alone without the need to judge it by my supposed shamelessness.
Also take a look at my previous comments. This would be the first time I not only self-promoted but also "spammed" a link.
.. it was only 2 hours, geeze.