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"Udacity will help you find you a job (as defined in the program Terms and Conditions) at a partner company, land you a paying internship, or secure for you the opportunity to make money through Udacity’s global mentorship or freelancing programs. We will achieve this within six months of your graduation date, or refund your full tuition."

Paying Iinternship or "freelancing programs" is a bit slippery. You freelanced once that is a job! This being said Udacity should be commended for taking a step forward and putting money up in a way to back up their service.

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A paramedic school in Washington was once run by AMR. Guaranteed employment.

If you were a "problem" or lacked potential, you'd get a job offer for either remote South Dakota or high in the Appalachians.

"Tuition refund guarantee not valid if offer of work turned down".

Yeah. It is really saying "One of our partners will take you for something" without any real guarantee the results are in line with the expectation of the student.

Then again, Udacity is really trying to be a Software Dev Technical School so that is par for the course imo.

secure for you the opportunity to make money through Udacity’s global mentorship or freelancing programs.

They don't even promise a partner will take you for something. They just promise an "opportunity to make money".

"Oh, you don't want to make an Android app for $10, well we gave you the opportunity. We're sad to see you passed on it"

> "Oh, you don't want to make an Android app for $10, well we gave you the opportunity. We're sad to see you passed on it"

That is what I meant by something.

They do have minimum income, though it's quite low.

"Further, in your new job Udacity guarantees that your gross income from such job will be in excess of your cost of tuition (pre-tax) within a 3 month period following job placement."

Well it does set a minimum

> Further, in your new job Udacity guarantees that your gross income from such job will be in excess of your cost of tuition (pre-tax) within a 3 month period following job placement

But given you are paying about 3600 for the degree, that comes out to making minimum wage.

Looking further at the terms:

"* Graduate has not rejected any job offers."

Probably to fix a pretty obvious loophole:

* Obtain degree

* Turn down all jobs for 6 months

* Get refunded, then get a job.

So, you forgo 6 months salary, in order to get $3-4k tuition back. I guess if you didn't want to work anyways...

Backpacking through the world for 6 months while earning a bit of money? Count me in.

Refund of your own money is not "earning money"...

What I was pointing out is that under the terms and conditions, you cannot reject any job offers and still get a refund. Regardless of how shitty the terms.

As someone who lives in a place where minimum wage is ~4 USD/day -> ~120 USD/month. Hell yeah!

It only applies to US residents.

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