Carmakers fret their industry is on the brink of huge disruption
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I wonder if driver-less automobiles will really reduce the need for cars. Sure, you can have a car run 3 different commutes a day instead of 1 typically done now. But that will produce 3X the wear and tear on the car.
In New York, taxis are used for 3-5 years.
Plus, with driveless cars we may end up driving much more and further. Instead of a bus, I may just have a car drive me to work. In fact, Uber already lets me commute by car instead of public transit 4/5 days a week.
Uber has already caused me to drive more, not less. I wonder what the end result is.
But they are right to be worried. Any major change in technology brings in winners and losers.
And my experience is exactly the opposite. I have never had a car die from mileage. I've had several die from time.
In my experience cars last about 10 year, 15 if you are careful. How many miles you drive during that time is mostly irrelevant.
Personally I think cars should track hours when turned on, not miles.
Miles is definitely not a very valuable measure, at least not in my experience. An old (age) car, with few miles, means lots of city miles - those are the hardest for the car.
On the other hand lots of miles, and young age means highway, which is basically nothing for a car. But there are lots of miles.
It's basically a wash, so miles is not a good way to evaluate a car.
Huh? How can 'time' kill a car?
My car celebrated her 30th birthday. Under 200K miles. Time does not kill cars, and neither does mileage.
It just gets to a point where it is cheaper to replace then to repair.
I remember seeing a lot more rusted-out cars on the roads back in 80s and 90s. But not so much anymore. I think most manufacturers started using galvanized steel by the 90s.
Ok, this is from the "Steel Market Development Institute":
"In the 1970s, automotive sheet steel was simply cold rolled, primed, painted, and put on the road. Corrosion resistance wasn’t very good. By the early 1980s, however, carmakers decided it was time to eliminate rust failures in their vehicles. Ten years later, steelmakers had installed continuous electro and hot-dip galvanizing lines, and carmakers switched to two-sided galvanized steel for cars and light trucks. These steps improved the corrosion resistance of steel bodies so much that companies began offering corrosion-perforation warranties."
Also, several cars have made 1+Million miles as I the odometers roles over. Considering many people drive less than 8k miles per year that's a lot of driving.
PS: The real issue is both age and driving reduce value. But, age is automatic as soon as you know the cars model year so people care about high vs low mileage because they are already buying an old car.
The economist really likes to paint everything as a gloomy picture.
The way I see it - the modern internal combustion engine is a threat to civilization.
Car Makers especially americans ones have a lot of blood on their hand. Everything from helping redesign cities to make it impossible to not afford buying their product.
To making walking a crime ( jay walking ).
"Young city-dwellers are turning their backs on owning a costly asset that sits largely unused and loses value the moment it is first driven."
Good - we really cannot have 7 billion people drive cars.
Education is the best way of reducing population. Cars (or any type of personal transport) is crucial, moving the effort from humans to machines, leaving the human with more time and options. This leads to education and caring about the environment, politics etc.
So for a while we'll have to have 7 billion people using cars (or at least that's what the goal should be) then this will drop to 6 billion, then 5 then 4 etc.
We can power cars using solar. Terrestrial or orbital.
Going slightly off topic. Overpopulation can be solved in 2 ways: reducing population or expanding our habitat. Education contributes to both, but the second sounds like a more feasible path to take.
Increasing our habitat isn't simple. But it at least is likely to get more feasible over time. While reducing population seems to be the opposite of our 'nature' (not that we aren't able to go against that) and it requires the cooperation of basically everyone. Which isn't required by the former. Cooperation seems to get [insert mathematical function] harder when more people are involved.
Sidenote: expansion would of course not exclude taking care of existing habitats.
The comment was intended solely as an extra view on the overpopulation subject.
The fact that the cars drive themselves really changes nothing. Car pooling reduces the total number of cars necessary. Public transportation reduces the total number of cars necessary. You might try to argue that car pooling will increase as a result of the change, but I don't think that is a given. You'd need to explain away surge pricing to convince me otherwise.
But certainly, if you'd like to sell me your Tesla shares now at half price and get to safety, I'll be a friend and take them off your hands for you :)
The car companies have enjoyed brand loyalty and the ability to sell feature bundles because many people associate their car with their identity. When you say “Mustang owner”, “Subaru driver”, etc. specific images come to mind, and across all cars you see things like people paying considerably more to e.g. have a fuel-inefficient engine because there are a few times where they can step on the gas and enjoy the rapid acceleration. Manufacturers made billions selling SUVs to people who thought safer, cheaper minivans were too boring.
That doesn't completely go away with self-driving cars – someone with 4 kids will still have different needs than the avid bicyclist or single urbanite — but a lot of it will become less important if people start thinking about their car as, say, the place where they play games or catch up on Netflix while they head home from work. Why pay Ford for the premium sport package when you can put the money into a faster mobile data plan or a better tablet? They certainly don't go out of business in that scenario but the business becomes tighter and less exciting if it becomes more of a commodity where people generally just buy whatever's cheaper.