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After trying different email clients (Sparrow, Mailbox, Airmail, etc) just to see most of them getting abandoned, I've decided to simply stick to the native email clients provided by OS X and iOS and use fastmail.com with a custom domain name. Fastmail is about as flexible as it can get, their IMAP support for OS X mail.app is fantastic and their push notification service is actually better than Apple's (Fastmail pushes 'new/read/unread/delete' notifications, whereas Apple only pushes 'new'.

I tried to stick with the native mail.app but found it to be buggy and broken in too many ways to be usable. Airmail seems to be working fine for me and doesn't seem to be abandoned.

Perhaps it depends with what services you use it? Personally I've only ever used it with Apple's iCloud's mail service which worked great but didn't support custom domains. I also used it as a POP client for Gmail (mostly because Google's IMAP support initially was horrible and their tags didn't play well with IMAP folders back then). I can say though that FastMail's IMAP service works flawlessly for me, and so does the mail.app client for it.

Yes, Airmail is still supported, but IMHO its UI suffers from severe feature creep. I also found it never reliably notified me that account passwords needed to be changed. I used it against MS Outlook, and whenever the password on the backend needed to be changed after 60 days, Airmail would simply sit there and not receive any new emails.

Seriously, try https://www.uniboxapp.com/. I've been using it on my Mac since beta, and now they have an iOS version. I haven't looked back since. It organizes email by person, like text messaging.

Thanks! Looks like a neat app for personal use; doesn't seem to be geared for my own use case though (multiple domains/companies). And while they might or might not stay in business, I'm reasonably sure that mail.app won't be abandoned by Apple.

Does it have email tracking, snooze/read it later functions? Site seems to be sparse on details. I've been quite happy with Polymail thus far, but organising emails by person would be amazing.

Does it require a CloudMagic third party server to operate, or it is a plain vanilla email client?

The FAQ seems to imply that having a CloudMagic account just makes it so that you don't have to set up your email accounts on each device: http://help.cloudmagic.com/article/create-cloudmagic-account...

They definitely use "the cloud", but their FAQ may be able to answer some of your questions there too: http://help.cloudmagic.com/section/security/

The FAQ is very light on details. No mention on how the mail is stored on their end

We store metadata of the last 14 days email on a rolling basis.

What about message content? Is that passed directly through or stored on your servers as well?

They are proxied through servers.

Yes it does. Back story - https://medium.com/@rohitnadhani/cloudmagic-for-mac-is-here-...

The mobile apps are free. How does that work? Developing an app takes time (especially one that looks this polished), and running servers costs money. I don't see any ads in the client, so you must be making money some other way.

Combined with the fact that my emails would have to pass through your server, that makes me uncomfortable.

Yes, mobile apps would be free, serving as 'trials' for the desktop app, which is paid.

CloudMagic Mac app has already reached #2 in Top Paid App on Mac App Store within hours of launch.

Over a period of time, we'll introduce more power features like email tracking, CRM integrations, etc.

I think we are building a ethical independent business here.

Your privacy policy makes some of that apparent, and it's clearly worded. I appreciate that.

I didn't initially notice your privacy policy because there doesn't seem to be a link from the Mac app page. I had to go to the homepage by deleting the path from the URL in my browser, since I couldn't find a link to the main page on the Mac app page. I scrolled to the bottom of the page, as that's where these things usually are, but all I found was a trio of social media buttons. I scrolled back up and noticed the three-horizontal-lines symbol, which I correctly assumed would bring up a menu. I found the privacy policy under that.

I can only speak for myself, but I would have found it valuable to have an obvious link to the privacy policy on every page. I really wanted to find the privacy policy, because I felt a bit guilty about how tersely worded my previous comment to you was. Had I not been so motivated, I might have just looked at the page, thought it looked nice, then closed it when I couldn't find an obvious link to a privacy policy.

Anyway, thanks for answering my question. I hope I didn't come across as rude. I feel like a parent sending my kid to a sleep-over. I just want to make sure my data will be safe while it stays with people I don't know.

I will forward your comment to by website team. This is definitely something we can improve. Thanks and have a great day.

Love the minimalist approach - but not for business use. I use MixMax ( https://mixmax.com/ ) every day and the additional functionality its provided has been a big deal for me. More is more in a business use-case I think.

Rohit from CloudMagic here. To build these 'additional functionality' on all platform, you need to roll out your own clients. We've started with the table stakes, stay tuned for those power features, across all devices. Extensions don't work on mobile devices and 70% of emailing is done on mobile today.

[call for ideas] Got any idea for what an email client should do? Add yours to the list of issues on https://github.com/alain94040/coolbox

I will drop by and write some of my ideas. What I absolutely do not want is for the client to rely on, yet another, third party servers/services.

In the demo I see the mouse move around over too many icons. What about Gmail shortcuts?

I rather not use the mouse at all during any email interactions.

http://help.cloudmagic.com/article/mac-shortcuts/

I was sure that "focussed" was a spelling error, but it's apparently allowable, if less common than "focused".

Hopefully someday I'll understand why such apps are released for a system with less than 5% market share.

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