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  app.get('/', function * () {
    this.body = yield User.all()
  })

  app.get('/', function (req, res) {
    User.all(function (err, users) {
      if (err) throw err
      res.end(users)
    })
  })

> But I think it is the easiest ecosystem to be a terrible developer in, and still get stuff working.

That honour would go to PHP, as far as I'm concerned. JS has many more fail-hard scenarios, and if you don't adapt your attitude to learn about things before using them, you're very quickly going to run into brick walls due to the entire callback thing.

Neither really has anything to do with MongoDB either - there's nothing inherently JS-y about MongoDB (JSON isn't JS), it just happens to have picked up a lot of traction around those parts.

The "MEAN" stack exists, MongoDB is popular in the JS community, and I feel they both exhibit many of the same hints of a fundamental lack of understanding about tools from a significant number of users.

As I said, there are great JS devs, and I'm sure there are some people using MongoDB for the 'right' things, but I don't think it's the majority.

2. Even among non-relational document storage solutions, Mongo has a poor reputation. As someone else says elsewhere in the comments, it's hard to trust a team that let so many ridiculously dangerous bugs (and a basically unreliable design) out into production for so long.

http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2015/07/19/why-you-should-ne...

And if you really have minimal requirements, I recommend SQLite.

You know why many SQL databases use a lot of RAM? Because it improves their performance. They don't require the RAM, they just use it when it's available. Would you rather that it uses your free RAM to speed up your database operations, or to just have it sit idle doing nothing?

As for not being "the only choice" - while technically correct, this is very misleading. SQL databases and schemaless/document stores are _not interchangeable_. They are used for different usecases with different data models and different integrity requirements.

MongoDB is a special one entirely - even for a schemaless document store, it's just very poorly designed and maintained. Use any of the many other such databases - which gained a reputation by actually working well in production, rather than its developers organizing lots of hackathons as a marketing stunt.