Comment by kossTKR | Hacker News Reader

Comment by kossTKR | Hacker News Reader

Why is this not getting massive attention here on Hackernews? Right now a post about a dude hacking together a selv driving car has garnered 5X the amount of votes on this post (not that the other post isn't interesting).

Remember that:

Apple, Reddit, Twitter, the Business Software Alliance, the Computer and Communications Industry Association, and other tech firms have all publicly opposed the bill. And a coalition of 55 civil liberties groups and security experts all signed onto an open letter opposing the bill in April. Even the Department of Homeland Security itself has warned in a July letter that the bill could flood the agency with information of “dubious value” at the same time as it “sweep[s] away privacy protections.”

http://www.wired.com/2015/10/cisa-cybersecurity-information-...

Isn't this massive news?

I mean the bill in itself is horrible policy making, but the way it's being snuck in is scandalous in its own right.

Have i misunderstood something?

Because virtually the same bill passed the Senate with 75% support, and the House passed the (significantly worse) PCNA back in April at approximately the same margin.

This bill was going to become law; the only question was whether the conference committee between the House and Senate would change it --- if it had, it would have changed it for the worse, since the House bill is worse than the Senate bill, which is the one that's going to pass.

There's just not much of a story here.

That makes sense.

Although when looked through policy-making perspective this change is further stabilizing the already dystopian trajectory of international tech laws.

The worst of the worst just keeps getting compiled and eventually voted through. And under the guise of "war on terrorism", "war on pedophiles", "war on hackers" etc.

I just don't see this ending anything but horribly.

Either with a monopoly driven "light-net" full of censorship, and no way of entry for the "smaller" businesses, ngo's, dissident groups etc.

Or worse with a global pre-crime dictatorship.

My thoughts are that if you're not planning for an Orwellian Nanny-State who will demand access to all your private keys, you're probably not going to be able to scale up to the UK and China.

HN readers will be designing business models with that in mind.

Not saying this is "old news," just that the actual bill that aligns the US with China in terms of human rights violations will not affect startups as much as it will affect large incumbent businesses: Apple, Reddit, Google, Amazon, etc.

Those incumbents will continue to make money right up until they are disrupted by startups who can route around the internet damage caused by the US spying infrastructure. [1]

So here's a toast to the first HN company that succeeds.

[1] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Gilmore, from the perspective that spying has chilling effects and is part of a total censorship program.

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