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Meanwhile the leading candidates from both US parties want to trample on our Fourth Amendment rights by weakening encryption and installing backdoors.

"Somebody will say, 'Oh freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people. We have a lot of foolish people." -Donald Trump[1]

"You’re going to hear all of the usual complaints, you know, freedom of speech, et cetera..." -Hillary Clinton[1]

[1] https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20151207/21225233018/two-l...

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Someone should build an encrypted cell phone into an assault rifle. They would never be able to ban that.

You're ok with 2nd Amendment violations but are concerned about the 4th? The Bill of Rights isn't a buffet.

More like disagrees with this interpretation of the 2nd amendment.

If only crypto users were as vocal and organized as gun owners. We could call our organization the National Rijndael Association.

Last I checked, people had been successful in banning "assault" rifles.

I'm not aware of a time in the US where encryption was banned for the populace.

The number of presidential candidates that look at the constitution as a hindrance is scary.

The thing is though, they don't realize that they see the constitution as a hindrance.

You're not making it any better.

I would say the same for a lot of HNers.

A couple coworkers of mine and I have devised a perfect strategy to combat the anti-encryption/ anti-privacy movement. Since logic and reason do not work, start asking people who work against encryption / privacy and the people who also have those views, "Why do you hate America? Why do you hate freedom and the bald eagle?" This will surely gather people on the correct side.

There seem to be a lot more people who shrug their shoulders and say that they have nothing to hide or they aren't very interesting than there are people who are actively against encryption.

This is very much a case of manufacturing consent rather than support.

I have found another one as well. When someone is spouting off some anti-American B.S. I just ask, "You seem radicalized. Should I be afraid of you?" "Radicalized" is such an awesome put down for extremists now that the media have taken off and run with it. Just asking that question of a holocaust denier handing out pamphlets got them to leave in embarrassment.

You seem radicalized ;) XD (This is great btw.)

Interesting how people complain about violating the 4th Amendment but act outraged over the 2nd. One could argue eliminating both would make us safer. It's also interesting how the pro-4th crowd seems to often fall into the anti-2nd crowd. Too much hypocrisy these days from the politicians. It would also seem that the 10th is often ignored as well.

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