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There's a breed of e-cig smokers that are doing what humans always do when they get a new hobby- take it to the extremes.

I walked down the street a couple of weeks ago and saw massive smoke coming from around the corner. And when I smelled it I thought "Someone's really hitting that BBQ!". It was a guy standing on his balcony vaping. Releasing giant clouds of vapor.

I'm all for vaping, but I imagine that the people who take it to the limits are gonna find out eventually that it can be unhealthy too (as anything done in excess)

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You're being puritanical. Using Vegetable Glycerin you get large volumes of "smoke" as it is what is used in smoke machines. Its non toxic, you can drink it. This is what I use, with flavor, and no nicotine.

Your assumption that I'm doing something wrong is silly. I'm must a human "smoke" machine.

The thing is, after 30 years of puritans campaigns against smokers, they have managed to teach you that anyone who produces white clouds is somehow dirty.

Personally I'd be scared shitless if I were to vape stuff like what you're describing. I'm genuinly curious, what are they vaping and why they think it is a good idea?

I use a kanga subtank mini on a kbox mini - and mostly liquids from BordO2, a French producer of some repute. This isn't some pile of parts I scraped together in which I'm smoking shale oil...

I'm one of the "thick clouds" crowd - because my first attempt to switch from "traditional" cigarettes failed because the feel of smoking was missing. I'm now on nicotine-free oils, and plan on stopping outright over the next few months, as the physiological need is now beaten - just the psychological "what to do with my hands" end of things to treat.

As to why I think it's a good idea - don't know if I do, but I think it's a better idea than smoking. I'm no longer constantly phlegmatic, I don't wake up in the morning out of breath, I can taste things again, I've stopped wheezing. Those all seem like good things to me.

Finally, I've never seen someone going "cough cough urgh" at a fog machine at an event or disco - and it's the same damned stuff.

" I've never seen someone going "cough cough urgh" at a fog machine at an event or disco - and it's the same damned stuff."

That's precisely why I don't go to discos or theaters that say they are using fog machines.

> I've never seen someone going "cough cough urgh" at a fog machine at an event or disco - and it's the same damned stuff.

Whut. I'm a smoker, and standing next to such a machine, definitely makes me go "cough cough urgh", if I happen to breathe a lungful when it goes off in my face. Even while smoking :) (back in the times when you could smoke inside clubs) (not that I want those times back, mind you, it was a good change and it's making it easier for me to try and quit)

Current generation e-cigs can supply up 200 watts just for vaporizing the E-liquid. That's almost 1/3 of a horsepower and can be used to create obnoxiously large clouds. Many 'Vape Shops' now even sanction tournament-style 'cloud competitions' where 2 participants stand back to back and try to blow the biggest/longest/thickest cloud: https://youtu.be/9oIo_nKOGlQ

You say that like its a bad thing. The only thing going on here is you're expressing your puritanical urges. "People are having fun, there must be something wrong with it!"

"obnoxiously large clouds"

Yes, I don't like winter either.

The vapor isn't what you should be worried about. It's called "Cloud Chasing" and most of the hardcore of them have to build their own hardware to get to these insane levels. And sometimes they screw up. This leads to battery explosions that have seriously hurt people.

I was worried about this part of Lewton's comment:

> And when I smelled it I thought "Someone's really hitting that BBQ!"

This implies that there is some serious crap in the vapor, so that you can smell it from the distance (and it smells like BBQ).

I have noticed that some people vaping tend to take really hard drags from their devices that I doubt they would from a cigarette

if you need nicotine, get the patch. if you need to quit cigarettes or even e-cig the patch is probably good too and in most cases free from your health plan

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