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And this isn't a theoretical threat either, actual ISPs have been injecting adverts, trackers, and other content into third party websites. Even in the US.

See:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/04/how-a-banner-ad-f...

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2925839/net-neutrality/code...

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/two-ways-your-isp-is-spying-on-...

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Yes I'm aware of that. But guess what, ISPs no longer do that because they were sued and lost.

They still do that, they haven't be sued, and they haven't lost. One of those articles is from May this year. And as far as I know they're still injecting trackers into the HTTP headers of mobile traffic to this day. It is opt out.

Yes they have been sued. I'm only responding because I'm getting more downvotes.

This isn't the best example, just the first thing I found in Google http://www.zdnet.com/article/nebuad-isps-named-in-class-acti... they settled for 2.4 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NebuAd#Class_action_lawsuit

I'm not going to waste my Friday night looking up old lawsuits to save a few HN reputation points. But I can tell you, I remember first reading about this stuff ~1999 when ISPs wanted to get their content in front of the Internet, but I don't remember the exact details. I've been following Boardwatch, WIRED, Techdirt, Digg, Slashdot, TechMeme and TechCrunch since then and consider myself relatively informed. I thought we were beyond this by now, 15 years later, but apparently I was wrong!

OK Someone1234, I was not aware of that. So what ISPs should we avoid now?

Comcast for one. But to be honest any or all of them could turn "bad" and you wouldn't even know it. That's what HTTPS offers us, assurances.

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Good to know, thanks.

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