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A friend and I downloaded Signal to try it out, and just couldn't get anything to work. I'm on iOS 8, the app would just crash anytime I hit any button to make an action (send a message, even delete my account). On his end (he was on iOS 9), it said it connected to me, but his messages just got lost in the ether in between us.

I mean, I'm a technical guy. I don't understand what either of us was doing wrong. Have you seen anything like this in your experience?

> Telegram simply has gained a lot of publicity and increased its user base (which is critical for IM) thanks to E. Snowden

Why do you say that? Snowden keeps recommending Signal every time he's asked.

Telegram has better cloud sync. Signal doesn't have a desktop app AFAIK, only a Chrome plugin which is still in development.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/11/3/9662724/signal-encrypted-c...

Seems like he changed his mind.

https://whispersystems.org/