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From that page I'm confused.

Is this an update of the "traditional" Eclipse IDE, or a new browser based IDE? What does a "workspace server" mean?

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Che is a web based IDE from what I have heard. The github site is better organized: https://github.com/codenvy/che

> a web based IDE

This is exactly what I didn't want. Please tell me that this "next generation" stuff is just inaccurate hype, and that this is really just some minor Eclipse offshoot.

It uses the same Eclipse technology, but it isn't the next version of Eclipse. Like Orion, it is an experiment at looking at what a web-based IDE can do.

The existing Eclipse IDE will continue for a long time yet - Eclipse Neon will be released in six months time with full Java 9 support, for example.

The great thing about web based IDE's and the reason we will see more of this in the future is the opportunity for vendor lock in. Once you can control a developers tool chain you can prevent him from moving to another vendor because of all the stuff he can't take with him.

Hosting it myself would be a requirement for using a cloud IDE. Of course, there is still some lock-in, but the lock-in is the same with a desktop IDE.

In general, a cloud IDE has some nice promises: Initial setup is trivial; More efficient building and testing due to resource sharing in the cloud; Live collaboration is simpler. However, so far I'm underwhelmed by everything available.

Both Orion and Che can be run locally (or behind a firewall) without any problems.

As Alblue says, Che seems to be a host-your-own alternative. I think this use case is something that I have been looking for.

Writing some huge web/analytic application that needs a huge cluster? Throw in a few docker nodes with applications that have APIs that are needed for running the project.

Good luck starting that on your laptop.

For me, I want to ultimately have my laptop be downgraded to a chromebook or something small, cheap, and with a long battery life. To do that, tools like this really fill a nice area.

Something I've been looking for.

> is the opportunity for vendor lock in

Also the fetish for centralized control and tool standardization.

Just imagine: you may soon be developing in a SAP-based IDE, chosen by feature checklist!

Most people wont fall for that trap. For personal projects that aren't full open source, I host everything that the code ever touches.

From source management, to email servers, to a hastebin for sending errors between my team. Nothing touches a public server if I have it my way.

It' partially a control thing, and also a security thing for me. I want to make sure that I'm never held a 'ransom'.

It looks to me like it's a web based frontend to Eclipse. I think a 'workspace server' is just a Java server passing messages between the browser and the backend.

The API documentation screenshot is a default of something. I know I've seen that UI with those colours elsewhere.

I believe something equals swagger ui. [0]

[0] http://swagger.io/swagger-ui/

Looks like StrongLoop API Explorer

It's actually swagger. [0] Strongloop uses swagger.

[0] https://github.com/codenvy/che-core/blob/master/platform-api...

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