I just moved into an RV, where I will live and work for the next year
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http://tynan.net/living-in-a-small-rv-introduction (Intro) http://tynan.net/video-tour-of-my-rv (Video tour) http://tynan.net/deluxerv (Remodel with wood / marble floors)
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So far I've stayed with a friend for a week, took a trip to Austin and visited family for a couple days, and also rented a car and am staying at a friend's house across the bridge while he's out of town.
I took all of my food and laptop and left everything else... I trust the mechanics.
You could also just do a sublet. I was thinking of doing that since I knew the repair would be a month.
The hardest part was getting my moped back into the city. I had to stuff it in the trunk of a rental and drive with the trunk open.
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I guess you won't be offering your apartment for future YC interviewees on airbnb anymore :-P
And, no, I reckon YC interviewees and visitors will need to find a new Mountain View home to crash at. Though the RV does sleep six (as long as they're all good friends; three if nobody is sharing a bed). There are a handful of friends who've seemed willing to try a few nights on the road with me, so I'll see how well the dog takes to more crowded living for a few days, and how livable it actually is with more people. But I don't think AirBnB accommodates a moving house very well.
I did 22,000 miles in my old Dodge (78 Class C) and saw more of the USA and Canada than most people ever will in a lifetime (I'm not from North America). From taking a snowmobile up a remote mountain to watching a satellite launch in Cape Canaveral, staying on Indian Reservations in AZ and hitting Irish pubs in NY, all was done in good time. I even found time to get stranded in a blizzard in North Dakota, which was so cold it froze all the water tanks.
Mainly I'm just reminiscing about a simpler time in my life, but my one piece of advice is about getting the RV level on streets. Get yourself some flat pieces of wood, and a simple spirit level. Keep the wood in one of the outside storage compartments. When you've got to park on the street, just put the wood in the lower side of the street and drive up. Check your level and adjust as necessary. The advantage of this is that someone driving past won't notice quickly (because it's usually the footpath side that's lower), like they would with the jacks. And if you need to make a speedy getaway (for instance, seeing patrolling cop cars) you can just drive off the wood and go - easy enough to get some new pieces somewhere.
Other tips include : don't park in obvious places like recreation area carparks, and never park outside someones house. You want to get more 'public' buildings like churches, schools, retirement homes and telephone exchanges, but without going into a deserted area. Nobody is generally in these buildings at night and you'll be gone in the morning. Street parking/sleeping is a fun pastime once you get into it because you really feel you're getting away with something. The only time I had any problem was when I had the motorhome parked outside my apartment, and my elderly neighbour rang the cops on me. I wasn't sleeping in it (obviously) but was always tinkering with bits and pieces, so she thought I was. Most cops don't care and if you're courteous and leave when told it won't go any further. It was easier for me to play the dumb card because of my accent.
Good luck with it, and I'll file this one away as something to think about. I think I'd need ubitiquos internet to get a little better, but it's probably something to think about.
Modern RV's have hydraulic/electric 'feet' that extend down and both stablise and level out the rig. These take time to put up and down and are very obvious when the are extended. If you just park on a couple of bits of wood, it's possible to get it level enough for the fridge to work OK. It doesn't look as obviously 'parked' to the casual passerby. And if you need to make a speedy getaway (for whatever reason, be it the law or unwanted company) you can just start up and drive off. That's what the wood is for.
They've also gotten a bit better at surviving sloped operation; modern ones can be operated while driving and for short periods parked on a slope. Older ones were more sensitive.
Also, sleeping on a tilt is uncomfortable. So, leveling is kind of useful for humans (and dogs), too.
Reminds me of the joke about the engineer: "hey, why can't those blind guys just play at night?".
;-)
Also, how living on a RV impacts "Don't drink and drive" ? :)
It is simpler, because there are a number of really good services that will accept mail on your behalf. I chose St. Brendan's Isle, and I pay less than $20 per month for all of my names (I get mail to both Joe and Ronald) and my business name. They scan the covers of all non-junk mail, and I can then request scans of the contents of the mail or physical forwarding (for a small per-piece fee). The fact that they'll simply recycle any junk mail I get, automatically, makes me wish I'd always used a service like this. I hate junk mail and I hate paper, so having everything shredded or digitized and never having paper except for what I explicitly ask for, is miraculous.
And it's more complicated than you'd think because the postal service requires a notarized form, along with multiple forms of ID (and those forms of ID beyond drivers license are strange, and I only had one of them, so it was a close call) in order to permit someone to open your mail. So you have to file a form for every name and business name that receives mail at the forwarding service.
My primary line of defense is to simply not get mail. I've switched to paperless statements from my bank and credit cards, I already had all of my other services setup with automatic withdrawal and such (and have canceled a lot of them). Even so, California still sends me crap all the time about payroll taxes and such.
There will be other issues. I need to read up on operating in California now that our address is in Florida. Jamie is still in California, and will remain a CA resident (while I'll be claiming Florida as my home this year, for no state income tax and lower vehicle registration fees). I don't know what we'll do about our various taxes for the business. We're a Delaware corporation, so that stays the same...but how we interact with California might change. I'll figure it out soon.
Another complication is that my new address is in a town I've never visited and in a state I haven't been to since I was a kid. I'll have to visit Florida at some point to register my RV and get my FL drivers license and voter registration. I should go visit the Wufoos, anyway, so this isn't a major hardship. But, it feels a little weird telling people my address and using it for billing address and such.
I'd love to hear more about your experience with St. Brendan's. How is the scanning? Does it work for all your business needs (registered address, etc). Any tips?
My parents live in Florida, so that could make residency there easier as well.
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St Brendan's Isle is on there, as are some other ones like Virtual Post Mail, Paperlessmail, and US Global Mail. It's definitely good to check out the different services. Everyone appears to be in different states so they may offer something that may fit your usage. For example, Virtual Post Mail is located in California and from what I read, they also provide Registered Agent services for CA corps and llcs. That's something to consider if you're looking to setup a corporate presence in the State.
On a related note, if you do hire people reside in that state or supposedly do business in that state such as having a warehouse there or something, then you normally would need to register your corporation (delaware in this case) as a foreign corp in that state. So then, you end up paying basically two annual fees. Imagine what Microsoft has to pay every year. :)
And, since it's currently the off-season, RV parks are pretty cheap. I'm paying $41.50 per night in a really nice place on the beach, vs. $71.50/night plus utilities at my house in Mountain View.
I asked and received a nice answer:
"Someone accidentally banned a site that you then submitted something from. We have some new people with admin privileges, and they don't realize how easy it is to ban stuff accidentally."
My father lived on a canal barge for the past 4 years and is now living in a custom RV. He loves the mobile life and dislikes being anchored to one spot too long.
He rents a virtual server with Linode for things that require constant monitoring, but it also provides him with a SSH tunnel for when he's using public internet.
He's parking in pub car-parks a lot of the time and as he's in the pub most evenings the landlords are happy with this. He uses their wi-fi (with permission) and gets great bandwidth and has his SSH tunnel to offer security.
When he's not parked with such favourable conditions he uses a 3G card which gives him decent reception everywhere. With a blackberry all of his email is taken care of so he only needs to get online to do specific things.
Now, granted he's not a programmer... but how much bandwidth does that SSH connection take? And if you're using a virtual server to do your downloads and then can drive by a wi-fi spot to collect them from the server then you would've successfully avoided the very expensive cost of a satellite connection.
I find that I can pretty happily SSH into my boxes on the east coast (where I am) but those in Texas tend to be more of a problem.
Today I'm parked at Morro Dunes RV Park in Morro Bay. They have free WiFi that is excellent. I'm currently watching Torchwood on Netflix, while also uploading several large photos to flickr. It's not the 20-something Mbits I had in Mountain View via Comcast, but it's perfectly usable, and fast enough for everything I need to do, including repository syncs of our software. It has also been reliable all day, and Netflix streams have been completely smooth and without interruption for the couple of hours total I've been watching and working.
The KOA I stayed at in Monterey had very expensive ($14.95/day) and very slow/spotty Internet, though, so I don't expect Internet to be an easy problem everywhere. But, finding great Internet here in Morro Bay is encouraging, as this is a small town, not renowned for technology.
When I parked on the street when first arriving last night, I used my G1 tethered via PdaNet. But, there's no 3G here, so it was really slow. Pretty much just good enough for checking for urgent email. So, boondocking (just parking wherever and living wholly off-the-grid) will probably be limited to weekends, and possibly 3G-enabled areas. PdaNet also only runs under Windows, so I can't run Linux natively while using it; which means I have to virtualize for development (our software is a Linux/UNIX-only product).
I switched to a Sprint 3G card and have been comparatively happy for three years. The data cap is worrisome, the latency isn't great and neither is the throughput, but it's a vast improvement over satellite, especially in reliability.
I have suspected for a little while now that most the US has good enough WiFi availability that I'll be able to get by without satellite. And, when I have 3G, my phone is an acceptable source of connectivity.
Hack hack hack...hrm... need docs, go fetch them... hack hack hack ... need some source code ... fetch it ... hack hack hack ... need some examples or to talk to someone on irc ... hack hack hack.
While I will readily admit I am probably one of the more clueless programmers here, I doubt I'm alone in this...
One advantage would be that I won't be tempted to compulsively browse HN and other news web sites.
If satellite Internet will work for you, there's always MotoSAT (motosat.com). I was a beta tester for this setup back in 2001 and it worked very well.
Good post.
I think we're going to do a conference in February in Los Angeles, so I'll probably stay in California until then. We'll definitely be doing OSCON, so I'll be in Portland in July. I don't think I'll make YAPC this year, since it is across the country and doesn't leave a lot of time to get back to the left coast for OSCON (my goal is to drive no more than six hours between stops and never stop for less than a week, since I do have work to do and can't be driving all the time).
Interesting. This is not the case over here in Europe (at least in the parts of it I've been to). You get fined if you sleep overnight in your vehicle outside designated areas (like camping sites, specially RV-dedicated parking lots, etc., all of which you have to pay, of course).
EDIT: of course you can park everywhere, I was referencing "sleeping" part of the article.
Then again, I'm cheap^H^H^H^H^Hfrugal.
More to the point, I'm curious if you priced out what a 250 square foot apartment in Mountain View would cost, if it's even available.
I'm not doing this to save money, though that will be a pleasant side effect. I wouldn't be willing to live in 250 square feet, if I couldn't consider the whole country my living room. I agonized over all of the stuff I've had to give up, and I'll probably do a post about it, entitled something cheeky like, "Remembrance of Things Past" or "Requiem for my Things".
The loophole isn't that it's super cheap to live in an RV (though I guess it can be); the loophole is that I get to travel all the time while living my mostly normal life, running my company, cooking in my own kitchen, sleeping in my own bed, etc. and as a huge bonus, I'll probably spend about $800 less each month on housing.
Not true. Yeah, that's how winter is here. Winter sucks everywhere. The other eight or nine months of the year are non-stop sunshine and warm-to-cool temperatures, unless you live in one of the undesirable neighborhoods of SF with bad fog.
Anyway, neat idea. I approve.
For people from cold climates, the bay area is very mild, and lovely, year-round, but I'm a total wimp in the cold. I hate the cold, and I've been miserable the past couple of months in Mountain View. So, I'm heading south.
Not in Scottsdale, AZ. :)
Summer, tho ...
Perhaps this is why the UK is floundering in the technology/start-up field?
And, I'm not sure if tech startups, in general, require the ability to move from city to city. I do think it'll become a lot more common, though, amongst startup founders, now that Internet has become so close to pervasive. Most of the YC founders I know are already extremely mobile, and generally travel a lot more than the folks I know in other fields (except touring musicians, perhaps).
It also remains to be seen whether I can be productive as a tech startup guy while traveling. I suspect it'll work out fine, but there are plenty of variables in the year ahead.
Weekly stay hotels would also probably bring your expenses down a bit.