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It sounds like we have both had very different experiences with other designers.

This is exactly why you should never use your personal experience as an indicator of what the norm is. Instead you should observe the world — and in it designers design and programmers program, only rarely does one person enjoy both.

And what are you using? I have observed the world and my observations about web designers are completely different.

I have asked before for references or articles supporting your point of view and you have not posted anything. @charlesr posted some excellent links below. Where is the evidence that supports your perspective?

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