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Palestinian territories to get 3G in mid-2016

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Just imagine the data collection on these occupier provided networks.

With the population density and geography, I would of thought that WIFI coverage would be more useful to the local populus and with that with WIFI and 2G you would in effect something better than 4G.

I also wonnder with close proximity to other countries that the area would in parts be able to latch onto external network signals without a signal booster of any form.

I know North Koreans will often go near teh CHinese border to latch onto a Chinese mobile signal for use for short calls so they can speak privately independant of their governments ears.

Still, many parts of the World still to get upto 3G standard and with that, one wonders if they will get marketed old 3G cell kit that is redundant and not upgradable to later standards as todays models can do with just a code update.

Considering how communication links between Palestine and the rest of the world is restricted, wifi would be a moot point.

OK? How are they restricted?

They are not restricted, not even to Gaza.

The article at the top of this page discusses the lack of access to high speed Internet in Palestine.

No, it discusses lack of 3G mobile service. Landlines are full speed and unrestricted.

I guess this makes it clear (if it wasn't clear enough) that Israel is the state.

the occupying state.

HN is not a place for political views, there are plenty of other platforms for this, let's not litter HN, let's keep it clean and valuable.

Read paragraph 6 of HN welcoming guide: https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

I'm sorry but in this particular case I would disagree.

If you google for "Palestinian territories", you end up with the wikipedia article which uses the wording "occupied territories." (As it says there) the occupation was declared "null and void" by UN security council; and Israel sovereignty "has not been recognized by any country."

Noting the latter (recognition by no country), it is not just a political view but (also) a reiteration of the current state of affairs, much in the same fashion as saying that "London is the capital of the United Kingdom" (also a kind of political fact.)

See, it's exactly what I don't want to happen. This is your world and what you know. Now I'm gonna have to bite your bait about "UN declaring Israel Null and void". Here is the same UN council in 1949 declaring Israel a country and part of the UN.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNVuGuX1-eo

No, wait, there is no way one can charitably interpret what I said to extract the notion of "UN declaring Israel Null and void". UN declared the occupation of those Palestinian territories under consideration as null and void. Please, that was a very cheap trick! :) Are you saying that what I said provokes one to then start on a path which leads to statements of the kind you said (that I said)? I don't think so, as long as the principle of charity is honestly implied and applied, and the better part of the people here are not complete boneheads. Have some faith!

(Notably - before, we were arguing over states of affairs and beliefs on those states; there is no reason to dismiss it as some kind of politicized regress into trash, in my opinion.)

Seems pertinent in this case as it relates to technology at hand and how sanctions work.

Besides 136/193 UN member states recognize the State of Palestine, more than a large majority. So saying "occupying" is not that outrageous, no?

"Mashhour Abu Daqa, a former Palestinian telecommunications minister, ... believes Israeli carriers were behind the ban, trying to protect their interest in the captive Palestinian market."

this logic of economic subjugation (which I'm sure happens in other industries as well) reminds me of how the European powers treated their colonies - places to extract natural resources from and sell their surplus goods to at monopoly prices

not quite. carriers in Israel behaved in the same cartel fashion towards the Israeli market up until not so long ago when the government broke it: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.65109... (paywall)

As if there was any doubt... Only the Israeli government can cynically claim otherwise.

"Palestinians who choose to subscribe to an Israeli mobile carrier can access 3G."

The article is deceptive. Nearly all Palestinians subscribe to Israeli or European mobile carriers and have access to 4G.

How long until Medium upgrades their site to require 4G?

The title should be changed from 'Palestinian territories' to 'Palestine'.

I posted this submission. The rollout is not being extended to Gaza. Moreover, pending a final settlement, this is a perfectly adequate way to refer to them seeing as even by the most pro-PLO lights they would be a successor state of Mandatory Palestine.

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