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> Signal is bound to Google, and Moxie's views on corporate control and calling getting applications from somewhere else than Google "going back to the old broken desktop security model" doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

When you say its bound to Google, do you mean that users rely on play store to get Signal, or something else?

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It would be nice to find Signal on F-Droid for those of us who'd rather not be a part of the Google ecosystem.

There is an F-droid repo somewhere of a fork that uses websockets.

Of course not embraced by the Signal team, but from what I gather it works most of the time. Sometimes getting messages can be a bit wonky, though.

I think it means that push notifications are delivered via google cloud platform

And the concern is that Google has a backdoor into your phone

Easy solution: don't buy android

...and buy Apple instead? Or just go back to featurephones? I don't see any good answers in the cellphone market.

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