M-Pesa – a mobile-phone based money transfer and microfinancing service
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I think calling the service "M-Pesa" is misleading since a lot of other people are offering the same service.
Here in Tanzania,
"M-Pesa" is the name for the service offered by vodafone,a mobile communications company.
"Tigo Pesa" is the name for the same service offered by tigo,a mobile communication company.
"Airtel money" is the name for the same service offered by airtel,a mobile communication company.
"EzyPesa" is the name for the same service offered by zantel,a mobile communication company.
For the above reasons,i generally call the service offered by these companies as "a banking service managed by mobile phone companies".
"Sim banking" is the name of the service offered by a "traditional" bank called crdb[1] so a more generalized name that accommodates both traditional banks and cellular network operator banks is in need.
Most traditional banks are also offering the same service.
The only thing they all have in common from the user's perspective is that the services are offered through ussd codes[1] meaning they are not tied to mobile phones and they work with any device that supports ussd codes.
I have an application called ussd-gui[4][3] that i use to manage by money at vodafone "bank" using a mobile broadband modem on my linux system.
[1] http://crdbbank.com/tz/alternative-banking/simbanking.html
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unstructured_Supplementary_Ser...
[3] https://github.com/mhogomchungu/ussd-gui/blob/master/icons/u...
Their biggest difference with a traditional bank is that their "bank" accounts are tied to phone numbers.
Once they have your money,you can do money transactions more or less the same way you do with a debit/credit card.
You can also have your "bank" accounts on these companies tied to a "bank" account from a traditional bank and you can move your money back and forth between them.
I wonder why they didn't standardize on a single interface. We had trouble integrating with Kenyan providers at a device level at my previous job, since they exclusively use SIM toolkit apps, and - at the time - didn't provide APIs. USSD would have been a godsend. Great work on USSD-GUI.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/future-of-money-kenya-m-pesa-60-...
HN thread here:
M-Pesa in particular in one of many competitors in Kenya. But yet they repeated M-Pesa two or three dozen times in the report and asked people about that specific service by name over and over.
I rarely watch 60 Minutes now. It just annoys me too much. It is like watching CBS Evening News, just blatant propaganda and scaremongering, I miss the BBC, and Al Jazeera (both of which are "strangely" not available in much of the US, so we have to put up with the US version of Russia Today).
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Completely wrong.
First, even in your correction, you're still making a pretty useless point that is misleading to people who don't understand the nuance of the definition of GDP, don't have an understanding of MPESA (i.e. the target audience of your comment), and implies mpesa is far more significant than it actually is. i.e. it misleads, whether you like it or not. It's so misleading you probably took it as a fact when you read it the first time, and only saw the mistake when I told you it was wrong and you looked it up. Why not correct your statement with a useful quantifiable answer?
So why is it a pretty useless point? Well look, if I hand $1 to my brother, and he hands it back to me right away, and we do this 100000 trillion times on a digital money system we designed (say, a simple database with a simple algorithm to execute all these trillions of payments), we'd be able to say, 100% truthfully, that our silly payment system has a total volume of transactions that far exceeds GDP, or the entire world economy in this century so far, for that matter. It's a meaningless statistic, and it's an apples/oranges comparison because there was 0 added value in any of the transactions between me and my brother. GDP measures added value, mpesa transactions measured in volume don't. Why say 'mpesa's non added value figure is x percentage of the country's added value figure' at all?
For example, take sinopec. Chinese company with nearly $0.5 trillion in revenues. Imagine its profit margin is say about 5%, then that means that it has nearly 0.5 trillion in expenses, too. So this company processes about $1 trillion in value, every year. The chinese GDP is about $7 trillion. It'd be completely to say this single company which employs 0.02% of the Chinese population, processes money totalling about 1/7th of China's gdp, even though it's a factually true statement that's completely meaningless, when the real contribution to the 7 trillion Chinese gdp is actually just about 7 billion.
Either you express a statement of how much of added value is transacted on mpesa and take that as a percentage of total added value (GDP), or you measure the percentage of total volume that is transacted on mpesa, as a percentage of the total volume of all payment systems in the country, without getting into added value/gdp at all.
If you do so, you'll find mpesa is pretty small, the Kenyan central bank has pretty decent data. For example, in August mpesa handled about 250b kes in value, a tiny bit less than ACH, and an order of magnitude less than RTGS in Kenya which handled about 2.8 trillion. And those are just the electronic payment systems where mpesa looks to be less than 7%. Let's not forget the most recent reports are that 94% of transactions in Kenya are made with cash (which, expressed in a silly 'volume of cash transactions as a % of gdp' metric, would constitute a figure that's likely more than a tenfold of GDP, but again it's meaningless).
And I'm not even getting into the fact that a large portion of economic activity in Kenya isn't part of GDP, as the grey economy often is substantial in developing countries, or the large amount of double counting in the figure you're referring to.
Mpesa is awesome, I'm glad it's here, it'll keep on growing and become more important with time. But let's not sprinkle these bs apples/oranges metrics around on HN, the economist and the like take care of that just fine on their own. The mpesa story doesn't need this hyperbole, and its growth statistics are impressive and promising on their own.
Incredibly facetious. Blatantly false.
And no, it's not facetious at all. It's a theoretical example of how one can make completely honest and truthful statements, that are misleading and insignificant, an example you can obviously agree with because it is indeed a silly and insignificant statement, yet completely truthful that our bookkeeping system could indeed register the change of ownership of a $1 bill by processing trillions of money transfer orders in a given day, generating a volume of transactions that exceeds GDP. There's nothing false about this.
The statements by you that express mpesa transaction volume as a percentage of gdp are as meaningless without further data. And if you do add the further data, as I have in my post (conveniently ignored by you), you'll find mpesa is much less significant than your statement would lead people to assume. That's why I called your statement misleading and called you out on making the statement, despite the fact your corrected statement is 100% truthful.
I won't require you to agree with any of my points, that's up to you. But you can hardly call me facetious when I called you out on an error in your statement which you corrected, in my first post, and did the homework you should've done by adding context to your empty statements, in my second post. If anything, I'm taking this much more seriously than you, facetiousness then is quite an ironic accusation coming from you.
1. http://us.macmillan.com/thenextafrica/jakebright 2. http://solar.m-kopa.com/about/company-overview/
A cool Kenyan Uber driver gave me an amazing unintentional lecture on mobile payments the other day. It's just amazing to see innovation force its way through when the establishment sucks (ie, most Kenyans being essentially locked out of the financial system prior to this).
Edit
There are some interesting pointers in this previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10453809
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/future-of-money-kenya-m-pesa-60-...
The rest of the world is still working on "fintech"... They don't like to talk or hear about M-Pesa. So each time they do, it's a bit of a shocker.
An article from 2014 at bloomberg talking about it:
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-06-05/safaricoms-m...