Northface teams with Japanese startup to create spider silk moon parka
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I once had a side project going to make spider silk chemically. I am still in awe on how the spider developed this amazing tool: the cascade of chemical reactions involved, the spider bio-reactor that spins the chemicals into the spider silk thread. And of course, so little hope to go anywhere near that with classical chemical means.
I agree with toufka on that one: "It's hard to see unless you look closely, but this is the beginning of biological nanotechnology."
I wonder at what stage they are, and how the parameters of their material compare to naturally woven spilder silk.
The most obvious thing, to me, was that they were using a chemical called HFIP "hexafluoroisopropanol" to initially dissolve the silk proteins. This solvent forces proteins into a form called alpha helix which in this case abolishes the protein soluble - but the transition to beta sheet (which it needs to be for its strength) is a poor one. The amyloid field was using this a lot, and the results were horrible. The result was extremely irreproducible results, which the field papered over by doing experiments with an n of 1. My graduate thesis was basically doing experiments without HFIP and getting results that actually make sense (with higher Ns).
I reached out to Refactored Materials, which at the time was trying to do the spider silk thing, to suggest they play with the procedures that I had developed for amyloid work, but a trip to visit SF and give a lecture fell through.
Recently, I was in a conversation about a SF biotech that I think rose from the ashes of RM trying to do the spider silk thing, and apparently they aren't using HFIP (or TFE, trifluoroethanol, a similar solvent with similar effects) anymore, but I didn't get too many more details because these companies tend to keep their techniques close to their chest.
Sadly, I still see papers publishing amyloid work with HFIP and TFE going through my google scholar feed (I am now almost 7 years post-PhD).
Would be interesting to see comparison of actual benefits compared to current high tech fabrics used, all high-fill lightweight down stuff has some nanotech fabric to keep it light & durable.
Their other stated target markets seem more interesting: automotive & medical devices (https://www.spiber.jp/en/endeavor). Anyone know what this would be used for in the automotive industry? Carbon fibre substitute?
This is literally one of the few fields where spider silk has a use, but isn't actually super critical. Unlike say on an medical implant. You want to learn about the quirks of QCing spider silk (whoa.. we really do live in the future) on a parka, not in someone's body.
Hopefully it's not going to go the way of global hyper color t shirts.
If it were really so much stronger and lighter, why not win a Volvo Ocean Race with sails made out of this. I'd personally be in the market for a surfing kite if this is better than the usual spinaker nylon.
But I guess there is more money to be made in expensive clothing than in making real progress.
I don't live near any body of water that's large enough to sail in, but I do live near several mountains with peaks >14k feet. New winter jackets seem more applicable to me.
Maybe we'll work out how to get the spiders to spin us a space elevator in exchange for a continuous supply of insects.
Thinking of a manufactured product as a spider web is just irrational.