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I think you are quoting the part the protects their( livecoding.tv's ) intellectual property and , and not the streamer.

The license for the streamers stars at 11.Broadcasters.

It seems you are allowed to cancel the license:

11. Broadcasters

a.License from Livecoding.tv.

If you sign up for an account as a Streamer, subject to your compliance with these Terms of Service, Livecoding.tv hereby grants to you a personal, limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable, freely revocable license to use the Livecoding.tv Service for the uploading and distributing of authorized digital content, including videos (" Broadcaster Content ").

and:

2.Except for Broadcaster Content already downloaded by users, the foregoing license granted by you terminates regarding a specific piece of Broadcaster Content once you remove or delete that Broadcaster Content from the Livecoding.tv Service.

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I read through that, but that last part basically says "if someone hasn't watched your content, you can revoke the license from the content by deleting it". If anyone has seen any of the other content, the company owns a perpetual license for it. Regarding their site content, it would appear they think they own everything on the site, including user content:

> Unless otherwise indicated, all Content and other materials on the Livecoding.tv Services, including, without limitation...

That goes on to list all types of content, that the content is trademarked, copyrighted, etc. and then states they own all of the licenses to it, as I mention in my comments above.

In comparison, here's Github's statement on the rights to content:

> We claim no intellectual property rights over the material you provide to the Service. Your profile and materials uploaded remain yours.

>Regarding their site content, it would appear they think they own everything on the site, including user content:

> Unless otherwise indicated, all Content and other materials on the Livecoding.tv Services, including, without limitation...

... are protected by United States copyright, trade dress, patent, and trademark laws, international conventions, and all other relevant intellectual property and proprietary rights, and applicable laws (including in your country of residence).

Where does it say that they own everything?? You are interpreting this whole contract incorrectly.

I read that as "if someone is watching a video, they don't suddenly lose their license just because the author removed the video from the platform". Which is reasonable, IMO.

That goes on to list all types of content, that the content is trademarked, copyrighted, etc. and then states they own all of the licenses to it, as I mention in my comment above.

Yes, but then they "otherwise indicate" that you license your content to them, ie., you own it.

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