The Hot Dog Report
clearfood.com
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This is the sort of thing news loves to pick up, and before your pressured for full details it's already gone twice around the world. Do a full clarification later on how there was human containment and the only veg brands that failed were cause they weren't processed in vegan facilities, so it's expected. You come out looking honest, and it's just the media failing to wait for the full info!
Test other brands and items, do the same process.
I can assume some food processing plants that do tofu dogs also are big enough to do regular dogs or other products. Which means you can expect a few molecules of "cross contamination" even with proper washing procedure like with peanuts. As a vegetarian this doesn't bother me in the least, its to be expected. Nobody can avoid microscopic consumption of non-vegetarian items. It's the same with those microscopic shrimp in the water in NYC. Probably the same for the food I cook at home because I cook meat for my spouse in the same bowls/pans.
Now if they were to say, 5% chicken, that's an issue.
Wanted to chime in as a vegetarian.
[That being said there WAS issues years ago of non-vegetarian gelatin being labeled as vegetarian. There was no possible way that was a mistake, it was straight up gelatin.]
They do say, "While some of these substitutions, hygienic issues, other variances, or off-label ingredients may be permitted by the FDA, our scientific disclosure allows you, as the consumer, to decide whether the variance or problems meet your personal standard in your buying decision."
Some of these problems like pork in pork-free products or having 10g protein as opposed to 25g seem to be big problems that need some sort of investigative follow-up like contacting the companies for a statement about the findings.
This implies it's not as common as you suggest.
>2/3 of the human DNA samples were [in] vegetarian products. >10% of Vegetarian products contained meat.
Sounds to me like the meat hotdogs are the better ones.
Also, if the human DNA was caused by sample contamination in the lab, it could just be that the contamination is more likely to be detected in a vegetarian sausage than in a meat one.
"It's really easy to contaminate PCR reactions with human DNA, on account of the technicians being human and thoughtlessly shedding DNA at all times. You can prevent it, of course, but most labs that usually deal with non-human taxa only don't bother to, because it doesn't matter and it's a tremendous hassle and significant expense to do so. Unless this was done in a forensics lab, that would be my guess as to the source of the human DNA in the reactions."
http://www.metafilter.com/154105/Quality-meat-No-fillers-Or-...
This reminds me of the article about heavy metals in our drinking water. Analytical chemistry has made massive strides in our ability to detect different chemicals. Common laboratory machines can detect heavy metals down to the ppt (part per trillion). That's approximately 1 microgram in a liter of water. At those levels, who cares?
We are all cannibals and coprophages, so what?
You'd be OK eating those? I wouldn't, I'd be grossed out.
Or is it just when it tiny minimal quantities? Which honestly everyone eats sometimes.
Would you have a problem with this if people said that a hotdog had picked up detectable amounts of particulate matter from the air?
Looking forward to when bread products are analysed in all their varieties.
Are we looking at the same thing?
> Our scientific disclosure allows you, as the consumer, to decide whether the variance or problems meet your personal standard in your buying decision.
> The Clear List is a comprehensive list of high-quality, safe, and accurate products. This list only includes products with a Clear Score of 95 or above. A score of 95 or above means that there were no hygienic issues, and no substitutions found in our molecular tests. There could be slight discrepancies in the observed nutritional information vs. the nutritional content on the label, but nothing that could be harmful or intentionally mislabeled.
I see nothing on the page that quantifies taste or other aesthetic qualities, which is how you seem to have interpreted the test?
On average? Sure! Mass produced food standards are actually pretty strict. Violations happen in bespoke/small batch/local farms too, but are not very newsworthy because they only affect small numbers of people.
> Who paid for this site?
https://www.clearlabs.com/about
Don't see too much sketchyness; they claim to have funding from Felicis Ventures, Khosla Ventures, and HBM Genomics... All SV area companies.
Seems to me more like a well architected viral campaign designed to fund their kickstarter project: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/906785694/clear-food-yo...
Hebrew National was rated 4th least contaminated with a score of 96 (out of 100).
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