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Pawnshops, payday loan services, barber shops... And pubs closed down, because it is too dangerous for them to operate. Also signs on restaurants "Customer only toilets"

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Charity shops. Often when an area starts to fail as a shopping hub and retailers close when landlords can't get a new business in and have a void they still have to pay business rates. The way to avoid this is to charge rent to a charity shop which doesn't have to pay business rates, so they win even if the charity shop is paying lower rent than the business before.

For example Muswell Hill.

Yeah I would say pawn shops and payday loan services are the biggest indicators of a neighborhood in decline. They seem like the two predatory businesses that show up just as a neighborhood is seeing people with any money leave.

Why barber shops? Don't well-to-do people also go to the barber to get their hair cut?

They go to salons :).

(Joking.)

Of course not. They go to their stylist!

Most have the barber come to them or have a private barber in the building. My office has a separate room and a barber comes in every other week to cut hair.

Seriously? That is certainly not anything approaching the norm in the US.

Tattoo parlors. Strip clubs. Hole-in-the-wall liquor stores. Pull-tab joints. Attended laundromats (people who live in bad neighborhoods don't have their own washers and dryers, and ones that are inside apartment buildings tend to get vandalized/broken into).

What's a pull-tab joint?

I imagine liquor stores that sell pull-tabs. I'm unaware of stores dedicated to selling pull-tabs but there are a lot of corner liquor stores that are more or less frequented by people purchasing pull-tabs and cigarettes more than anything else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull-tab

There are indeed dedicated stores for selling them in some areas. It probably varies by state.

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I've never seen any in California, but the gist holds true. It's a good indicator that it is a poor part of town.

Ah, thanks. FWIW, the UK equivalent is the scratchcard:

https://www.national-lottery.co.uk/games/gamestore/scratchca...

You can buy these in most newsagents, and as far as i know there aren't dedicated shops for them.

Bars on the windows and doors.

Or windows that have been completely bricked up.

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