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Tacit, a CSS Framework Without Classes

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56 pointsyegor256a14 comments

http://yegor256.github.io/tacit/tacit.min.css

This is a fine basic styling file, but I wonder how it is a "Framework". There are no options and no helpers like a grid (except the horizontal navigation which defaults to just that) or error states.

Why has it pixel values like 2.16px and 6.3px?

It might be a "framework" in the sense of being a good structure to start your work almost from scratch.

Oh god, the whole thing could have been a single litte ~500 SLOC SCSS file. But there are about 20 files in the project. It uses DVCS, CI, build automation and package managers. For what's supposed to be a single little SCSS file. Why not just put it into one file and that into RCS and publish a link? And I can tuck the file into my project if I like to...

edit: DVCS, not DVSC...

I don't get your RCS argument.

For single files RCS is very very good and simple. A DVCS is good when there are multiple files that are related, and changes happen across them. This project should have been a single tacit.scss somewhere, and in that case, RCS is better than using a DVCS, IMO.

I use RCS for example for my Org-mode files, which are a bunch of independent files. Each of them have their own history in their own ,v files. Thus, the changes to my CV does not affect the history of, e.g., my lecture notes.

What's wrong with CSS classes? My mom can understand them (really, I tried) and they certainly pose no problem to the skilled developer. You don't want bootstrap? Then go with one of the dozen easy and scaled down boilerplates you can find. One out of the bunch, that I like for its grid system: skeleton 2.0.

Thank you for sharing, that looks good!

Skeleton is awesome. The maintainer has gone away, but there's an effort to fork it and continue the project.

What do you mean by "gone away"? He's not maintaining it anymore? He developed the 2.0 version though, didn't he?

Yeah, after the 2.0 version he vanished [0]. Issues and pull requests are piling up without response. Here's the (questionable) effort to fork it: https://github.com/SkeletonFramework

[0] https://github.com/dhg/Skeleton/issues/275

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9345271

I have to say a few years back I really really digged this idea of a "classless society"(lol) and 1. the existence of pseudo helpers like ::before ::after and 2. when used in a project that has no user-html like comments or descriptions made it look like a solid idea too.

It turned out a very opinionated and inflexible framework that could not evolve.

So although this seems like a great idea I have experienced high complexity and inflexibility in evolving a project – these are worse than the typical class mess that comes with the other approach.

I would love it tho if we could decide on a better basic HTML layout for apps using just the basic blocks of html just like we have with documents. now the help section of a website becomes more fun to develop because of the native support of html for text formatting.

Off-topic: the link is https://github.com/yegor256/tacit?oct

Is the `oct` url parameter significant or just a typo?

It beats the duplicate URL detector. OP submitted this link less than a year ago.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

> If a story has had significant attention in the last year or so, we kill reposts as duplicates.

It's to work around the HN repeat post filter. This project was posted pretty recently:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9345271

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