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I'm the opposite. I want a known fee or fare. I don't want to have to think if I need to tip or not tip. Is the tip expected or is it optional gratitude for exceptional service?

No, just tell me the amount. Most of the world works this way. Even in places where bribes are routine, there isn't as much tipping.

Restaurants are moving away, slowly, from the tipping model, mostly due to increases in base wages, making it unpalatable for all but the rich, to pay a premium price and a tip on top of that.

Pay your employees/contractors a fair wage and take responsibility for it, don't shift wage responsibility to the "fare" (paying passenger).

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I'm a heavy Lyft user, and I only tip when I have a particularly impressive ride (i.e. Driver goes above and beyond to be accommodating or I had a very insightful conversation). There is no expectation to tip, and I have never met a driver that's been offended with there being no tip. This with over 1k rides...

"Restaurants are moving away, slowly, from the tipping model, mostly due to increases in base wages, making it unpalatable for all but the rich, to pay a premium price and a tip on top of that."

they are ?

Yes, see for example: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6439290

Although I agree when it comes to Uber. I mean, I don't need great service from my Uber driver, I just need them to get me from point A to point B. However, the restaurant service I've gotten in places outside the United States is just awful. It's 15-20 minutes before you'll see your server again, regardless of whether the place is busy or empty.

I think that's somewhat if not greatly dependent on culture. In Japan and parts of China you get great service from staff who are typically paid only slightly above minimum wage. Parts of Europe have good service, and many places are seemingly contemptuous of customers, maybe foreign customers? In my experience its not exactly tied to tipping or not.

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