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Because the meat worship we have today is totally a grass root movement.

It is. Also grass fed. Tasty tasty grass fed.

Meat has always been the food of the rich, of the higher classes and is damn tasty. Meat is also terrific source of proteins, fat soluble vitamins and fats.

It's also a great source of saturated fat and cholesterol. Besides, fruits, vegetables, grains and legumes have all the protein and nutrients you need, so why filter them through an animal's body?

I'm not sure what you're saying. Perhaps if you could say what you mean instead of sarcastically saying something you don't mean, you could communicate more clearly.

If you're implying that a meat-heavy diet is some kind of US government conspiracy as opposed to the sort of diet which people across many cultures and eras have gravitated towards when they were able to afford it then I think a better study of history might be in order.

Thanks for the advice, it's a fairly bad trait.

But then you go on say lots of things about that mirrors you rather than me. I say meatie vs. veggie is not a grass root vs. government issue, and absolutly not a thing that stems from some bad version of cultural darwinism.

The meat loving of today is bad for our health, not only the environment, and to say that any culture in history has been able to afford meat production is in my view not a very accurate view on history.

WTF they already pushed carbs for 30 years

turns out cheetos and coke is a vegan diet

that strategy backfired massively, tho

I don't understand what you are saying here. Can you clarify? Thanks.

The last time the feds tried to influence the nations diet, it was a disaster. That disaster involved pushing macro-nutrient consumption away from meat/dairy (fat, protein) and into vegan/vegetarian (carbohydrate) sources. That should be abundantly clear, but you can google it as it is very well known in the usa, see for example this article front page WaPo this morning:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/10/06/f...

and for background, an left-wing politics view on usda the old food pyramid that has been discredited

http://www.healthy-eating-politics.com/food-pyramid.html

Thanks for the expansion. Interesting thoughts

The U.S. dietary guidelines discussed in that article encourage more dairy (but low-fat, not high fat) and "Increase seafood intake by replacing some meat or poultry with seafood." The also encourage us to "Reduce intake of refined grains and replace some refined grains with whole grains."

http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/dga2010/dietaryguideline...

Painting them as pushing vegan/vegetarian eating or increased carb consumption doesn't match the facts.

Wrong article--The food pyramid pushed corn based sweetener and other plant-basey carnohydrates grains and gluten based products at the expense of animal protein and (saturated) fat.

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