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Heroku2scalingo: migrate from Heroku to Scalingo in a minute

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Has anyone used scalingo? How has the experience been? The pricing is favourable but I've never heard of them.

Maybe they're leveraging the recent outrage over Heroku/CISA?

https://www.youbetrayedus.org/heroku/

Which isn't even a thing. https://www.salesforce.com/company/news-press/press-releases...

That's nice!

In fact we started the project in june 2013 because even though we were very fond of the way of thinking proposed by Heroku (git push and that's all), their pricing was way too high to target a lot more people.

I've used it for a couple of projects and it works great! The CLI tools are really helpful

Yup I have, and it's pretty much everything you expect a PaaS to be. The S container feels way faster than a HK dyno, imho.

I used them once, it's a good service. I prefer Scalingo over Heroku because there is no virtualisation layer.

I am using them for many months, works great for most of my projects, easy to maintain, easy to scale.

Love that they support Meteor natively, without a specific buildpack to install.

Since 6 months, I've got a couple application in production there. Got a couple bugs during the beta, which were quickly fixed apart from that everything is fine.

Looks interesting for Europeans that don't want their servers accessed / seized by the FBI, but they should clarify if they own the servers or rent them to an US cloud company (Amazon / MS etc).

On their data-center page they just show a map with their 2 data-centers (both are in France, they might use OVH).

Yep, you're right, we'll clarify that: we're renting bare metal servers from a french company which is not OVH http://www.agora-hosting.net/

I assume you mean rent them from a US company?

No, they are French, based in France.

"they should clarify if they own the servers or rent them to an US cloud company (Amazon / MS etc)."

I think that was a grammatical question. As in, they don't rent to AWS or MS, but from them. (not that they actually do either)

I understand that they are based in Europe. This was a grammatical question since the parent used the phrase "rent them to an US cloud company."

You're perfectly right I should have written "from". I can't edit the sentence anymore though.

This is very nice to see another contender in the PaaS arena, one that also uses the mechanisms Heroku put in place. What really remains to be seen, however, is the reliability of the service. Our production app has been on Heroku for over a year now and we've had very little issue with things, and there is certainly a lot that can go wrong in a complex environment.

Good point. I have different reliability requirements, I think, from most developers. Since I like to travel a lot, my measurement for reliability is how secure I feel that my apps will stay running on server reboots or equipment failure/replacement.

I consider most VPS vendors to be reliable in the sense that as long as /etc/roc.local, or a modern equivalent, starts all services on reboot. But, I feel more secure with a PaaS provider who I trust. For now I am using Azure for VPS (Bizspark participant) and Heroku and Bluemix for PaaS.

I like to use PaaS so it is good to see competition. It looks like a 512MB instance is about half way between Heroku hobby and professional plans: $7 to $18 to $25 per month.

The Heroku hobby plan, which is what I use, lacks the easy horizontal scaling.

How do you keep containers isolated?

Do you just run multiple docker containers from different apps on the same host?

Do you provide any sort of network isolation between apps?

Currently, we are running multiple containers from different apps on the same host. These containers are running with unprivileged users and reduced capabilities but in the same network. It will probably change in the future for a higher level of isolation.

Is "Leo Unbekandt" the real name of your CTO, or a pseudonym ?

I think it's my real name, proof underneath :-)

http://i.imgur.com/onAPdMr.jpg

Any interesting story behind the surname?

(Might be worth explaining why it sounds made up/like a pseudonym: Unbekannt in German means unknown; similar variations has the same meaning in a range of Germanic languages)

Interesting not really, someone in my family made some research about its past and return to the XVIIth century. From there, we can only make assumptions.

Interesting. You should look into providing servers in Japan. Heroku won't and it's a big issue here in Tokyo.

We'll have a new location in Singapore in the coming weeks/months. But if I understand well, it's not enough for japanese users?

A Singapore location would be incredibly useful for me. Is there some way to get a notice when that becomes available?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10333576

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Heroku private spaces is available in Tokyo now...

https://blog.heroku.com/archives/2015/9/10/heroku_private_sp...

As far as i know private spaces are part of Heroku Enterprise and prohibitively expensive for most startups.

Same for Brazil

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10333576

I'd love to hear more about your use case and what I could do to improve the situation. You can contact me with the email address in my profile if you're interested. Thanks!

How is it with plugins and Scalingo? We use a lot of heroku plugins for mongodb, logging, monitoring etc.

I'm really keen to know this too. I see they have add-ons for postgres, redis etc... but what about sentry, new relic? What would be the process to work with those?

You may find what you want from our addons list here: https://scalingo.com/addons We have an addon provider API http://developers.scalingo.com/addon-provider-api/ and we're now working with several third party providers to enrich our marketplace.

Does Scalingo offers free plan like Heroku?

They have a free trial, not a free plan. Free plan is for 30 days and does not require a credit card.

Unfortunately, we had to discontinue our free plan. Too much work for no money :/ We setup a free trial instead (30 days, no credit card required).

What are the uptime metrics on Scalingo? I see there are no uptime guarantees /SLAs. http://www.paasify.it/vendors/scalingo Here is heroku's uptime metric by way of benchmark. https://status.heroku.com/uptime?region=EU

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