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> Does that extra 4MB really bother you that much?

No, it doesn't, but what does bother me are the gigabyte+ apps that, like Game Center, Apple does not allow users to remove (without jumping through hoops that are probably both scary and technically challenging for most users).

Are you an Apple fan? Because I am (or was). I've been with Apple since the OS 7 days.

This lack of attention to detail is very uncharacteristic of the Apple I knew and loved.

The comparison to "what others are doing" is also very un-Apple like. Apple did not use others as a benchmark to decide what it should be doing, and the day it starts to do that is the day it's no longer Apple.

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What GB+ apps ship on the system that you think are appropriate to delete?

My apologies, I was mistaken. I had in mind apps like iMovie since, like Game Center, it's an app that Apple installs by default.

On 10.11, there are many apps that are not deleteable, but all of them seem to be under a gig (unless I'm missing something because I had, long ago, deleted an app and the OS update didn't restore it).

These include: Game Center, iBooks, Safari, iTunes, Photos, Contacts, Maps, Automator, Font Book, Dictionary, Notes, FaceTime, Chess, Reminders, Photo Booth, and perhaps a few other small-ish apps. These are less than 1 gig. I don't know why Apple did not choose to simply make whatever is so vital in the app bundle a system framework instead.

It's not a big deal to me if these small apps are non-deleteable. I assumed—incorrectly—that the big ones (iMovie, Garage Band, etc.) were non-deleteable as well.

This. I used game center as an example. Just removing unused languages saved me over a GB. I also stopped a bunch of annoying background stuff from using the cpu, which is nice, because I need it to do shit like compute for me.

While the attention to detail is lacking, it is becoming even more walled off. I reapect that because the market wants all there stuff synced all the time. Howecer, i don't. I dont need my search results sent to apple so i can get recommendations, i font want every message i text to be an imessage so it goes through there servers as well as att. I am disappoinr.

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