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The article is about China, so the same business (and political) strategy does not apply in the U.S.

Simply put, maybe oversimplified, but with the political support and native integration:

* both Google and Bing are born in the U.S.

* Google and Bing cannot compete with Baidu in China

* Google and Bing cannot compete with Yandex in Russia

I wouldn't be surprise to see Yandex becoming the default in the future.

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It's probably worth noting:

* Google is blocked in China

* Google and Bing are not blocked in Russia

While we're at it

* Facebook is blocked in China

* Facebook is not blocked in Russia

* VK (Facebook alternative) is more than twice as popular as Facebook in Russia

Did you mean google.com or google.com.cn?

Thanks for the clarification. I was going by this wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Websites_blocked_in_mainland_C...

So google.com, which does detract from my point.

It's okay. I think your points are still very beneficial to have. IMO native companies always have advantage as they usually have better understanding about the culture, user preference, and government. Portal is a big thing in the Eastern Asian countries like China and Japan so for a long time Yahoo and MSN search used to be leading the game until, of course, more Internet search engines come online.

Both google.com and google.com.cn are blocked, along with all other country specific Google domains.

Also, the largest search provider in Japan is Yahoo! Japan (2nd largest is Google, which has been slowly gaining).

Coincidentally, Yahoo! Inc does not own Yahoo! Japan. They are only a minor shareholder. Softbank is the largest shareholder of Yahoo! Japan.

Yahoo! Japan is also extremely different from Yahoo! that we know. In Japan, it's a social network, auction house, storefront, message board, news service and search provider all rolled into one. And they started doing this years before anyone else (becoming a one stop shop). The site may look dated today, but it was years ahead of its time when it started doing all those things. It's one of the reasons why they've been so hard to unseat. They got in early, sprawled out and cemented their place in Japanese web culture.

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