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Nothing Is Agreed Yet – We Can Still Stop the TPP's Copyright Trap

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The TPP now hinges on the auto industry (US, Canada & Mexico vs. Japan) and dairy industry (New Zealand vs. Canada): https://twitter.com/search?q=%40glynmoody%20AND%20%23tpp

If the TPP stalls due to auto industry supply chain tariffs, the new copyright laws identified by EFF will also be blocked, http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2015/08/26/c..., "Under NAFTA, at least 62.5 percent of a passenger car or light truck’s net cost must originate in North America to be considered tariff free under the agreement. Mexico wants to increase the percentage to 65 percent in the TPP, while Japan wants it to be about 45 percent for vehicles and 30 percent for parts themselves — which would allow for a greater number of parts from low-wage countries like China and Thailand to be included."

Pairwise meetings have been reported in recent weeks and there will be a group meeting next week, when most media will be focused on world leaders visiting the UN from Sept. 25, http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/final-round-of-..., "Chief negotiators for the 12 countries involved .. will begin meeting in Atlanta on Sept. 26, and trade ministers will join the next week, possibly Sept. 30".

For anyone else who is looking to do(albeit small) after reading this. Please go to https://act.eff.org/action/stop-the-tpp-s-copyright-trap and sign the petition.

Does the EFF have any significant political allies in this?

An overview of some groups who organized against the TPP, http://www.hightowerlowdown.org/stopTPP#.Vf2visT3arU

"In 2011 Lori Wallach began developing a strategy for taking the practically unheard of TPP out of the backrooms and splashing it into the faces of the public to awaken people to its multiple threats. Mainstream liberal organizations thought she was off on Mission Impossible, since the corporate side has thousands of trade lawyers, lobbyists, PR agents, and other experienced operatives working on this. Was Lori seriously proposing to confront that army with her 11 staffers?

Yes. Enlisting a core band of labor, environmental, and community allies, the dozen trade-watching stalwarts at Public Citizen divided into five teams and went after the Brobdingnagians of global corporate power.

...it's important to spread the story of the progressive coalition's successful confrontation with the Global Goliath. Its methods and achievements give us a new template for organizing (and winning) future populist challenges to the corporate order. And the breadth, depth, and intensity of this effort show what it will take to forge a real populist movement--multifaceted and with the long-term capacity to pursue our country's deep democratic principles. We can get there if we build on what we learn--and keep pushing."

do we have $ to donate to congress?

Why not vote with your spending power instead? If a small percentage of consumers appear willing to permanently boycott some goods from the participating countries then it would get industries complicating the negotiations.

I.e. do you really care if you buy jeans that are from China v.s. Vietnam? Probably not as much as the textile industry of Vietnam does..

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