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Not to mention it shouldn't be compared to the Tesla Model S, which is a sedan not a sports car. Tesla has already announced it will release a new Roadster in four years [1]. So now that Porsche has already shown its cards, you can bet that the new Roadster will be better in every single way AND arrive earlier.

We already know it will be significantly better in at least one way - the Maximum Plaid acceleration will probably give it a ~2.5s acceleration from 0-62 miles. And Porsche's increase in mileage 5 years from now compared to current top of the line Model S seems tiny as well, and my guess is the new top of the line Roadster will have at least 20-30% better mileage as well.

[1] http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/17/8994649/new-tesla-roadster...

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Well hopefully Tesla will improve on the interior quality and ergonomics of their car during the next 5 years.

Because right now it is sad compared to a Hyundai. It is a downright joke compared to a Porsche.

The Porsche is a premium luxury vehicle in which most of the drivers are rarely going to give a crap about 2.5s acceleration spec.

Well - that depends on the model. The cayenne is no sports car - thats for sure. But in Germany / Europe Porsches are used for racing. Here is an overview of the "official possibilities" http://www.porsche.com/porschesportscup-germany/en/series/

> The Porsche is a premium luxury vehicle

Totally agree. The Porsche outside my office window belongs to the CEO of the neighbour company. The Tesla belongs to the chairman of the board. They are both up in luxury territory because they are both really expensive cars.

Tesla wants to fight BMW and possibly but less importantly Porsche - their interiors and build quality needs to match the price tag. No exceptions.

this - it's nice and all to try to compare yourself to some market leader, but Tesla is no match to Porsche in overall driving experience, and won't be in 5 years (theoretically it could catch up, but its extremely unlikely). BMW is much, much better comparison (or Mercs)

All modern interiors have awful touch screens and shitty UIs and so are less usable than my 2004 Accord's interior. If you put a computer monitor in your dash, I am not buying your car.

Mandatory backup cameras beginning with the 2018 model year will severely limit your options.

I know. I'm hoping some car maker gets their head out of their ass and brings back physical knobs and an uncluttered UI, even with the stupid screen.

Current model Honda Fit maintains a small screen for displaying radio/bluetooth settings + backup camera while all other controls are traditional knobs/buttons.

I prefer it despite only being available on the 'economy' trim model as a large touch screen is embedded in everything else.

This is a common complaint by people and I'm starting to believe it's just the only thing people can find wrong with it so it seems to stick. I read the same thing yesterday on a different article about this new Porsche concept.

That said, this is the first car I've found interesting since I bought a Tesla. With everything else, it's eh--it's probably loud, vibrates, has jerky acceleration, drips on the garage floor, makes me stand in the cold while I fill it with gas, uses old "tiny explosions under the hood" technology.

Should we criticize the best because it could be better? Of course, that's how we make progress. Would I prefer a different car with a better interior but a bunch of other compromises? No way.

Tesla have mentioned a few times that they don't want people who work for them to think of themselves as a luxury car maker, since their business plan is to go mass market.

Obviously that leads to some weird contradictions since the plan is to fund that by selling little sportscars, then high-end sedans, then high-end SUVs, before the still relatively high-end 3, but not spending too much time on the luxury interior does kind of fit with that ethos.

But, luxury interiors have come seriously downmarket. If you don't upgrade the interior it's going to be spartan when everyone else is luxury.

That's the exact business Apple are in with the iPhone. The most expensive models fund the company and make it possible to push the more affordable models to a broader and broader base of users.

logical fallacy: false dichotomy. why not prefer a tesla with a nice interior? you're allowed to ask for that when you buy high end cars.

I do prefer a Tesla with a nicer interior. Like this Porsche, it doesn't exist.

My point is that the interior, which is actually great but could possibly be better, isn't really important to me when nearly every other aspect of the car is amazing and better than anything else I would consider in its price range.

I like the Tesla interior as it is. It is different in style from BMW, Mercedes, and Porsche interiors. Lots of reviewers say positive things about the interior. So it's not just me.

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